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Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by gravypod »

bengotow wrote: post #28

Hey folks! Mailspring maintainer here — glad to see this on Hacker News. For anyone just catching up, here's the tldr on Mailspring: - It's a fork of Nylas Mail with the entire mailsync codebase (~40k lines of JavaScript) replaced with a new C++ core based on Mailcore2. It uses roughly half the RAM and CPU of Nylas Mail and idles with almost zero "CPU Wakes" thanks to new C++11 features, which translates to great bat…

I'm someone who usually works in C/C++ and more system level things. A roadmap, and a set of already run benchmarks, for the different pieces of the codebase would be very useful to point someone like me to where we can be useful. A roadmap is also nice too.

Also, where can I look at the sync engine?

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by gravypod »

bengotow wrote: post #26
gravypod wrote: post #2

Can this so plaintext and operate without contacting a third party? There are a few "features" in this that worry me. One being the Open Tracking. The client looks great and I'd like to use it but I frankly don't know what I'm getting. With Thunderbird other solutions you know what it's doing and how. Some of the features of this are a little strange for someone like me.

Hey! Mailspring maintainer here—the app doesn't support plaintext emails (at least not out of the box), but it's likely we'll add support in the future. A lot of the features in the app, like read receipts and link tracking, are targeted at sales and business folks that send a lot of email and care about it being read. You can use the app without using them though! Unlike Nylas Mail, Mailspring implements all mail sy…

Plaintext is a must for many users. So is encryption. I really hope you implement that. If you do I'll switch to this client and I think many others will as well.

My spit, bubble gum, and duct tape mess of an email client (Thunderbird with one too many plugins) needs to be replaced.

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by tb303 »

herewegoagain wrote: post #43

What makes this better than Apple's Mail? Not familiar at all, just asking.

read receipts + link tracking. if you use it for work, it's incredible. all the other solutions are heavy-handed CRM style plugins for gmail.

canned responses + simple mail-merge style things

downside:

because it's not gmail, search is...not as good as gmail. nothing is.

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by bengotow »

shakna wrote: post #52
bengotow wrote: post #28

Hey folks! Mailspring maintainer here — glad to see this on Hacker News. For anyone just catching up, here's the tldr on Mailspring: - It's a fork of Nylas Mail with the entire mailsync codebase (~40k lines of JavaScript) replaced with a new C++ core based on Mailcore2. It uses roughly half the RAM and CPU of Nylas Mail and idles with almost zero "CPU Wakes" thanks to new C++11 features, which translates to great bat…

Really like it so far, but there is one nitpick that is bugging the hell out of me. I can't "snap" or maximise the window on Windows (Win7). Because I have a decent sized screen I often just maximise to half screen for most applications, but not having the standard resize tools is frustrating. Edit: This only happens if I have the Reading Pane enabled. Running version 1.0.1-ba1d6734. Is this something being worked on…

Hey! This is a bug—should be fixed in 1.0.2 later today: https://github.com/Foundry376/Mailspring/issues/17

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by bengotow »

naasking wrote: post #72

SMTP authentication may be buggy. I can't connect to an AppRiver account via IMAP and SMTP, but am able to connect to a more traditional Linux-based IMAP/SMTP setup.

Yeah—something is definitely up with SMTP auth on Linux. I have a few test accounts it seems I can connect on Mac which are not working on Linux... stay tuned.

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by kwhitefoot »

crispinb wrote: post #18
kwhitefoot wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it regarded as weird to use IMAP for this? It seems like an obvious use for IMAP.

I don't know IMAP beyond the very basics, but I presumed that it doesn't include facilities for adding metadata. Correct me if I'm wrong! So if you wanted to store snoozing info, you'd have to encode that oddly somewhere -- in a fake email item name? Or as an added mail header (if it's considered polite for clients to add them)?

I have used the subject for metadata as a way of storing backup files in IMAP. You can also use tags and as someone else mentioned you can do all sorts of things with headers.

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by callahad »

dmix wrote: post #78
discreditable wrote: post #66

I gave it a shot. The app is pretty but has some weird things that will keep me on Thunderbird. * No plaintext support. * No "Simple HTML View"—my favorite Thunderbird feature. * No plaintext view. * Sets a "Sent from Mailspring" signature that isn't straightforward to remove. * I don't want to track others reading my mail. It's creepy and I'd rather that functionality not exist in my client. It's enabled by default.…

> * No plaintext support. Strange, wasn't this one of those security focused clients? or am I mistaking it for something else? This is a big oversight as I find it's the ideal format for PGP emails and I find it forces me to keep things simple and minimal.

You're probably mistaking Mailspring for Mailpile (https://www.mailpile.is/)

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by anoother »

bengotow wrote: post #28

Hey folks! Mailspring maintainer here — glad to see this on Hacker News. For anyone just catching up, here's the tldr on Mailspring: - It's a fork of Nylas Mail with the entire mailsync codebase (~40k lines of JavaScript) replaced with a new C++ core based on Mailcore2. It uses roughly half the RAM and CPU of Nylas Mail and idles with almost zero "CPU Wakes" thanks to new C++11 features, which translates to great bat…

Does it support the Exchange protocol?

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by mobilemidget »

bengotow wrote: post #28

Hey folks! Mailspring maintainer here — glad to see this on Hacker News. For anyone just catching up, here's the tldr on Mailspring: - It's a fork of Nylas Mail with the entire mailsync codebase (~40k lines of JavaScript) replaced with a new C++ core based on Mailcore2. It uses roughly half the RAM and CPU of Nylas Mail and idles with almost zero "CPU Wakes" thanks to new C++11 features, which translates to great bat…

Could you please eliminate all the calls for webservers for fonts etc, I don't need those parties to know when I launch apps.

Re: Mailspring: A fork of Nylas Mail by one of the original authors

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Post by naasking »

bengotow wrote: post #85
naasking wrote: post #72

SMTP authentication may be buggy. I can't connect to an AppRiver account via IMAP and SMTP, but am able to connect to a more traditional Linux-based IMAP/SMTP setup.

Yeah—something is definitely up with SMTP auth on Linux. I have a few test accounts it seems I can connect on Mac which are not working on Linux... stay tuned.

I've installed a few updates, but it still doesn't work. Now mail fails to sync with the accounts I had setup, particularly with my NAS sitting right across my desk on a direct LAN connection.

Too bad, I've been wanting to replace Thunderbird for awhile and Mailspring looks promising, but doesn't seem quite ready yet.

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