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"Santa's Super Sleigh"?
No but my user name is a big hint. Artist who grew up in South Philly 50-60 years ago and had a hit song so big he still lives off the royalties today.....
Bobby?
Royalties from Writing a Hit Song with Justin Bieber
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#52Wait for GANs and Style Transfer. Your "blessing" will evaporate as soon as the first Machine Learned Song hits Billboard 100.
RNNs are pretty close already: https://soundcloud.com/reivalk/basic-rnn-joplin-example-over...
The title point out that it's "overfitted". Basically the AI just reproduced almost the exact song that it was fitted with. It's basically a failed experiment where the machine didn't learn how to make music, but insted just repeated the note that it was taught. Not the best example to show case what RNN can do for music.
Re: Royalties from Writing a Hit Song with Justin Bieber
#53> How will I be able to support my gift? In the end what we are seeing is that that golden era of creators making a living (and much much more) was an anomaly. Control of new types of distribution created scarcity and new forms of expression and shifting norms jacked up demand. But now distribution is free, instant and global. Demand has flatlined and production has exploded. The hard question a creator needs to ask…
If even people reaching a truly stupidly huge number of people don't get even close to making a living (I get more than that off a few hundred people on Patreon for the work that I do), in a situation where those operating the streaming services are renting out entire floors of office buildings in Manhattan, your question is disingenuous. Just because some of us are eking out a sort of existence in the new era doesn'…
The problem is the middlemen and the way the revenue is distributed through them.
Someone who produces and uploads their own video that reaches a stupidly huge number of people will make bank guaranteed, just like someone who is reaching their audience directly through Patreon.
On average you should be able to get $5-$10 per 1000 YouTube video views if it is on your own monetized channel. So that 35 million views probably generated around $245,000 dollars for someone.
Probably most of it ended up in the hands of the record label that owns the YouTube account, and by the time they finished taking their cut the final $200 made it back to the song writer.
My point is that new methods of distribution flattens the distribution and gives you the potential to make much more money if you spend the time to build your own thing rather than going with a record label.
Re: Royalties from Writing a Hit Song with Justin Bieber
#54> How will I be able to support my gift? In the end what we are seeing is that that golden era of creators making a living (and much much more) was an anomaly. Control of new types of distribution created scarcity and new forms of expression and shifting norms jacked up demand. But now distribution is free, instant and global. Demand has flatlined and production has exploded. The hard question a creator needs to ask…
Turns out writers weren't being paid for their songs, but were being paid for a portion of the massive markup on a plastic disk. Now that the disks are gone, the value of the song is laid bare. The same has largely become true for software. How many new Lotus's or Corels are being funded today?
Re: Royalties from Writing a Hit Song with Justin Bieber
#55> How will I be able to support my gift? In the end what we are seeing is that that golden era of creators making a living (and much much more) was an anomaly. Control of new types of distribution created scarcity and new forms of expression and shifting norms jacked up demand. But now distribution is free, instant and global. Demand has flatlined and production has exploded. The hard question a creator needs to ask…
"But now distribution is free, instant and global"
The only word in this phrase that's new is global. You could always go out on the corner and "instantly distribute" your music for free. What we are seeing in music is the same as we are seeing in the retail industry with Amazon. Those who own the distribution channel create the winners and the losers. With certain distributers having so much leverage they take power away from the creators. It becomes a race to the bottom.
Re: Royalties from Writing a Hit Song with Justin Bieber
#56Well, I thought this was going to be about JB screwing over a writer... so at least it wasn't that. Pretty low numbers though. I wonder what Spotify would have looked like if it were on the list...
The rates paid to songwriters by Spotify & Pandora are similar: about $0.00007 per play.
Source: royalty statements
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#58> How will I be able to support my gift? In the end what we are seeing is that that golden era of creators making a living (and much much more) was an anomaly. Control of new types of distribution created scarcity and new forms of expression and shifting norms jacked up demand. But now distribution is free, instant and global. Demand has flatlined and production has exploded. The hard question a creator needs to ask…
>The hard question a creator needs to ask themselves now is not "how do I get paid for what my art is worth?", but instead "was my art ever worth much to begin with?" I disagree. The hard questions for creators of anything is how to control sales of the product. The digital platforms have failed musicians. The challenge is how to enforce prevention of piracy (ie illegal uploading of material). This will ultimately be…
What? Piracy isn’t the evil that it used to be 15-20 years ago where people would rip cds and tapes.
Nowadays everyones music is hosted and streamed legally on youtube/spotify/play music/any generic music service. The days of people paying $20 for an album cd just to listen to the one hit they like are long gone.
If artists trust their popularity then they can pull their music from streaming services, indirectly forcing fans to purchase their albums (like taylor swift did a while ago). But even this isnt an option for smaller artists, who would just disappear into obscurity because of how over saturated the industry is.
Re: Royalties from Writing a Hit Song with Justin Bieber
#59Get with the times! The way people consume music has radically changed. The music gold rush is over. The simple fact is people listen to music on YouTube and Spotify now. Music is also absurdly high in supply because everyone wants to be a musician. Guess what that does to the value? That's right, music is cheap because it isn't worth much. Whenever I see people complain about this, I just feel sorry for them. The wo…
On the other hand there is money in music, and it could and should increase. When you have 1 billion people paying $10 / month you have $12 billion per year to split between the artists, songwriters, record companies and distributors. That might still be lower than before but it is some money.
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#60> How will I be able to support my gift? In the end what we are seeing is that that golden era of creators making a living (and much much more) was an anomaly. Control of new types of distribution created scarcity and new forms of expression and shifting norms jacked up demand. But now distribution is free, instant and global. Demand has flatlined and production has exploded. The hard question a creator needs to ask…
In the end what we are seeing is that that golden era of creators making a living (and much much more) was an anomaly. Historically, musicians and actors were very poorly paid. For a brief period in the 20th century, some of them made a lot of money. That's over. There were, at peak, several million Myspace bands. Some of which didn't suck. Supply of musicians far exceeds demand.
Myspace was great for smaller bands. It made it very easy to connect with like-minded artists and set up tours and shows on your own.