The Land of Lisp

Post by flavio81 » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 6:37 PM UTC

Vekz wrote: post #40

I was greatly disappointed with this book because none of the 'Game' examples had a graphical interface to them. They are all text based. Reading further in this thread people are suggesting Realm of Racket as an alternative and it looks like that book has much more visual game examples: https://realmofracket.com/games.html

Post by dwringer » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 6:38 PM UTC

midgetjones wrote: post #20

amake wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> seemed quite idiomatic I'm not sure how that would be a bad thing. Did you mean un idiomatic?

I did, of course, mean idiosyncratic. My bad

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 6:49 PM UTC

felideon wrote: post #28

dwringer wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A common complaint about Lisp code in general is that programmers tend to write code that is idiosyncratic [ED: I previously used the word "idiomatic" here in reply to the OP but was conflating terms, making this post rather irrelevant but at least it provoked a discussion] (i.e. rather than looking like templated design patterns with standard names, the program is heirarchically built of modules in a domain-specific…

I know what you are saying, but that is not what is meant by idiomatic Lisp. Not by Lispers at least. Non-idiomatic Lisp is typically written by beginners whose code looks more like the language they are accustomed to using previously. For instance, leaning heavily on a procedural style. And not just beginners, but also seasoned programmers that write object oriented Lisp more akin to static OOP. In other words, desi…

Post by branchless » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

flavio81 wrote: post #22

This book is destined to be a classic programming book, just as "The C programming language", "The Little Schemer" or "Operating systems: Design and implementation". I would really like to meet Conrad Barski and give him a great hug. And invite him a good beer. Be sure to read the comic that is on the bottom of the page!! Now, to be honest, a quicker or more practical introduction to Lisp would be the "Practical Comm…

Post by drcode » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 6:59 PM UTC

westoncb wrote: post #46

flavio81 wrote: post #22

This book is destined to be a classic programming book, just as "The C programming language", "The Little Schemer" or "Operating systems: Design and implementation". I would really like to meet Conrad Barski and give him a great hug. And invite him a good beer. Be sure to read the comic that is on the bottom of the page!! Now, to be honest, a quicker or more practical introduction to Lisp would be the "Practical Comm…

Am I mistaken or is that Alan Kay smashing bugs in the comic? :)