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I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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If anyone is interested in learning more about this stuff, the annual Horizons conference is this weekend in NYC:

http://www.horizonsnyc.org

And there will most likely be a MAPS event on Saturday night as well. I'm not going this year, but in previous years they've always been good.

Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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It's a shame that it took so long before we started to truly study the positive uses/effects of drugs like MDMA and Psilocybin. I wonder how long it will take society to really drop the "DARE/DRUGS ARE BAD" mentality and start having more rational discussions about this stuff.

Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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For decades, there has been a near complete effective block on medical research for certain classes of drugs. Timothy Leary and that kind of 60’s stuff chilled legitimate science. Only recently have small changes started to happen, to the point the government, the flipping FDA, has started to think Ectasy (MDMA) might be a viable treatment for some of our most horrible mental illnesses.

So many people wonder when science will let us do things. When will we land on the moon, when will we cure cancer (most cancer anyway, a handful have been effectively cured), when will all of mankind benefit from the next great insights? We ask this yet in a lot of ways, we won’t even open our minds enough to give it our best shot.

How much can x, mushrooms, ketamine et al really change devastated lives for the better under the right conditions? We may never know.

I fully respect the opinion of people who say these drugs shouldn’t ever be used, or that disagree with me on any issue in general. But I will never respect someone who doesn’t want to know the answers and the data.

It happens with drugs, gun control, so many political issues, people actually do not want, and even work against collection of, objective data. Of course of any given data set can be biased or flawed, and that has nothing to do with getting the best data you can, iterating, and improving it.

If we are opposed to something, it’s ostensibly for a reason right? Why would we ever not want to strengthen our argument, or discard it, based on better understanding of our “reason”?

Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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It's a shame that it took so long before we started to truly study the positive uses/effects of drugs like MDMA and Psilocybin. I wonder how long it will take society to really drop the "DARE/DRUGS ARE BAD" mentality and start having more rational discussions about this stuff.

Probably around the same time the alcohol, pharma, and private prison industries stop throwing money at lobbyists if I had to guess.

Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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For decades, there has been a near complete effective block on medical research for certain classes of drugs. Timothy Leary and that kind of 60’s stuff chilled legitimate science. Only recently have small changes started to happen, to the point the government, the flipping FDA, has started to think Ectasy (MDMA) might be a viable treatment for some of our most horrible mental illnesses. So many people wonder when sci…

> For decades, there has been a near complete effective block on medical research for certain classes of drugs.

In the US. One wonders why such a study wasn't carried out in a less puritan country.

Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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For decades, there has been a near complete effective block on medical research for certain classes of drugs. Timothy Leary and that kind of 60’s stuff chilled legitimate science. Only recently have small changes started to happen, to the point the government, the flipping FDA, has started to think Ectasy (MDMA) might be a viable treatment for some of our most horrible mental illnesses. So many people wonder when sci…

The sad thing is that the repressed authoritarians who want to control everyone and prohibit drug use would likely benefit greatly from some recreational psychotropic experiences under the right conditions. And society would be better off as well for their experience.

Or maybe they're wound too tightly, I could be wildly optimistic.

Re: I was in the MAPS MDMA for PTSD study

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post #7

It's a shame that it took so long before we started to truly study the positive uses/effects of drugs like MDMA and Psilocybin. I wonder how long it will take society to really drop the "DARE/DRUGS ARE BAD" mentality and start having more rational discussions about this stuff.

Probably around the same time the alcohol, pharma, and private prison industries stop throwing money at lobbyists if I had to guess.

Revolutions happen when people cease to give a fuck. Stop being afraid for those who govern you and stop blaming the powers who govern. Constructive alternatives exist.

There is brain-interfacing equipment at my desk worth 1000 USD tops. I buy MDMA, shrooms and similair substances for a couple of EUR per Gram and don't fear the possible consequences. What I desire though, is people who responsibly join me on my venture for science and humanity since I lack the knowledge and intellect to do a significant contribution on my own.

The good news is that there is many like me working with people unlike me and the sharing of information is still mostly free. The tides are in our favour, but only for as long as people invest in it.

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