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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by tosstossy »

exikyut wrote: post #282
KGIII wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the most-common complaints that I see about Apple is that they have allowed macOS' quality to steadily decline and the most-common speculation has been that this declination in quality is because macOS makes Apple less money than iOS. The iOS-using products are Apple's cash cow. It does make sense that they'd prioritize working on iOS. However, what doesn't make sense is that Apple certainly has enough resourc…

Manglement seems to have collectively forgotten that iOS app quality is dependent on macOS and tooling quality. Improve macOS, you put a lightness in devs' steps everywhere and iOS apps get even better. It seems that macOS has gotten completely bogged down (like really, really bogged down) and mired in bureaucracy. What I just described is a "little thing" that's very very hard to quantify to non-engineers, sadly. (I…

MacOS is a dead end, iOS is clearly where Apple is converging and you'll shortly see ARM laptops from Apple shipping iOS. It's only a matter of time before their flagship productivity-oriented products are running iOS.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by pvdebbe »

nkkollaw wrote: post #42
gowld wrote: post #30

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Android and Microsoft have their own sets of equivalent problems. Software and hardware change too quickly now, no one has time to build quality

Sure, but at least they don't charge premium. I paid 275 for my Moto G5, and it's about 10 times better (IMO) than the last iPhone I owned, which cost 3 times as much.

Wow. In Finland we got those for 100-150 EUR for preordering. No service provider tie-ins.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by not_kurt_godel »

girvo wrote: post #313
BlindMidget wrote: post #232

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Honestly all the great apple devs from the early 2ks have either moved into consulting or entrepreneurial activity or, more likely and worryingly, they've been promoted into management roles at apple where they're managing a team of engineers not quite as good as they were. You see this everywhere, at every company. That's my guess.

Are you seriously arguing that engineers were better “back in the day” and engineers now are not as good? Surely I must be misunderstanding you.

The talent pool of engineers capable of propelling a company technologically forward the way Apple was "back in the day" is by definition very shallow. He's not saying engineers are better, it's just a selection bias.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by not_kurt_godel »

DonHopkins wrote: post #263
thought_alarm wrote: post #49

How did Disk Utility.app go from being one of the great built-in OS X utilities to the embarrassing amateurish shit show that it is today? Perhaps the same people responsible for the file system engineering are also responsible for developing this user-facing application. They might excel at low level system engineering, but they are utterly unqualified to develop a high level GUI application. Spend 5 minutes with th…

Does anyone remember the MacTCP control panel? It looked like an eager bright eyed bushy tailed summer intern did it in their spare time to impress their manager who had never heard of this Internet thing before, but who then couldn't get the rest of the company to buy into this weird TCP/IP thing, because it was distracting customers from using LocalTalk like they were meant to. But then they shipped it anyway, but…

Yup. Same deal with the side panel in service preferences. The only way to even see the full name of a service beyond "[Thunder...thernet]", if it's longer than about 10 characters, is in the title bar of the Advanced settings pane.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by dng88 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #263
thought_alarm wrote: post #49

How did Disk Utility.app go from being one of the great built-in OS X utilities to the embarrassing amateurish shit show that it is today? Perhaps the same people responsible for the file system engineering are also responsible for developing this user-facing application. They might excel at low level system engineering, but they are utterly unqualified to develop a high level GUI application. Spend 5 minutes with th…

Does anyone remember the MacTCP control panel? It looked like an eager bright eyed bushy tailed summer intern did it in their spare time to impress their manager who had never heard of this Internet thing before, but who then couldn't get the rest of the company to buy into this weird TCP/IP thing, because it was distracting customers from using LocalTalk like they were meant to. But then they shipped it anyway, but…

Got good memory of that though. At least compared with using Windows TCP protocol stack on which you have to find which is stable enough to use, not just config. Woolongong is the best ... You do not need to know this strange sound word to use TCP/IP.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by Angostura »

BRAlNlAC wrote: post #114
thought_alarm wrote: post #49

How did Disk Utility.app go from being one of the great built-in OS X utilities to the embarrassing amateurish shit show that it is today? Perhaps the same people responsible for the file system engineering are also responsible for developing this user-facing application. They might excel at low level system engineering, but they are utterly unqualified to develop a high level GUI application. Spend 5 minutes with th…

I really don't get why they have allowed this crippled GUI for so long. I understand that they want to make it simple for low level users, but that seems like a bad excuse in this case as low level users aren't even going to use Disk Utility, just like they aren't going to use Automater. It shows a blindness to their market, i think. Anybody who is on my "free IT" list for the last few years has been receiving a Mac…

> low level users aren't even going to use Disk Utility,

Strong disagree. One of the first troubleshooting steps for 'My Mac is slow/unstable/pinwheeling etc is - Run Disk Utility and check/repair your disk.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by monkmartinez »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #299
kemitche wrote: post #288

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I shudder to think how hard it would be - likely impossible - to use a bad git GUI if I didn't already know many of the git CLI commands. Even just, say, MS Word. If I don't know a feature exists, clicking around through dozens of menus isn't going to get me anywhere. For both CLI and GUI, Google or official docs are the only reasonable way to discover.

> If I don't know a feature exists, clicking around through dozens of menus isn't going to get me anywhere. I find that clicking around through menus often teaches me about great features I didn't even know I wanted. Regardless of the cause, in practice, I find that it's much easier to get basic functionality out of a new-to-me GUI app than a CLI app. That may not be a fundamental properly of CLI, but it certainly is…

So absolutely with you on this. Exploring visually is best for me as well.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by borplk »

davidkuhta wrote: post #233
Osmium wrote: post #122

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There have been a few cases like this. Presumably the original was created/maintained by just one person, they move on, and then when the next person comes along they decide it's easier to re-write than modify the old code. But they don't have sufficient time and the new version is inferior to the old. Bear in mind the old version did need to be updated (new CoreStorage features, has to handle Fusion drives, now APFS…

I was just reading about something similar in the "Ask HN: What essay/blogpost do you keep going back to reread?" post Joel Spolsky's point: They did it by making the single worst strategic mistake that any software company can make: They decided to rewrite the code from scratch. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15407114

> They did it by making the single worst strategic mistake that any software company can make: They decided to rewrite the code from scratch.

Statements like that, while powerful are dangerous as they turn into baseball bats for people to hit each other with.

And they become an excuse for ignoring things and becoming an absolutist religious zealot.

There are legitimate cases where rewriting the code from scratch can be the single BEST strategic decision.

(And of course, vice versa)

If I have strong rational reasons to believe that a rewrite is warranted quoting Joel Spolsky or anyone else is not going to change my mind.

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