When is someone going to make this: Example 1 --------- Me: "Create a new Customer Record" DB: "Customer Entity doesn't exist, shall I create it?" Me: "Yes" DB: "Customer Entity created. What is the Name of your Record?" Me: "Larry Ellison" DB: "Customer, Larry Ellison created" Example 2 --------- Me: "How many customers are there?" DB: "There are 123 customers" Example 3 --------- Me: "How many customers have accoun…
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#42All I want is an ordinary RDBMS with SPAAS (Stored Procedures as a Service) that return a binary blob of tables, nothing else. I don't want noSQL, I don't care about cloud objects, I saw Firebase and didn't like it, I don't want JSON as a result, I don't care if noobs don't know who CODD is, they will learn it the hard way sooner or later. Oracle is the living god of RDBMS and they should take advantage of that yet t…
Think they are looking for the next thing with #18c cause the are so late to the game they cant just be a faster AWS Me2 that wont do it
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#43Wouldn't a much bigger deal be distributed part of the Oracle database in the cloud, not ML? Because turning a feature rich RDBMS into a decent distributed database is not really possible. You either have to sacrifice consistency, which by the looks of it is what Oracle is thinking to do [1], or you have to sacrifice both performance and availability. And there are already cheap not CAP consistent RDBMSs as services…
I know its hard to imagine, but it is true and most devops teams look to a shiny new tech they saw at a meet up than (like you said) fix 90s era technologies.
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#44Too little, too late for Oracle I think. No matter how good the product is, it won't be a first class supported thing at AWS, Azure, or Google's cloud. Eventually, that will drain off their customer base. If whatever the big 3 cloud providers are selling as a database is "good enough", then "better" won't be enough to keep Oracle's current position in the market.
If the price is good (and considering you would not have to pay for salaries as well) you would be a fool not to take it.
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#46> Oracle will have a steep climb to pull off their vision. They eventually will... someday. It's not with the fortune 100s that you surpass biological evolution, it's with the hackers, startups, developers, and red-eyed bandits that code at 3:14 AM to solve that one bug that kept them from sleeping for the past 3 days. The Revolution of Evolution in cloud ML and autonomous DB will come from a Panoply, the execution o…
I don't want to apply a fix written at 3:14AM by a developer with sleep deprivation. That's the same as being proud that drunk developers fix the most critical bugs.
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#47Too little, too late for Oracle I think. No matter how good the product is, it won't be a first class supported thing at AWS, Azure, or Google's cloud. Eventually, that will drain off their customer base. If whatever the big 3 cloud providers are selling as a database is "good enough", then "better" won't be enough to keep Oracle's current position in the market.
I think you are reading this wrong. Imaging you are a technical co-founder of a new start up... Someone is now telling you: 'you will not need to hire as many devops or DBAs if you buy this technology and you are also future proof, because we tune things for you and scale up your hardware without any effort from you.' If the price is good (and considering you would not have to pay for salaries as well) you would be a…
That's not Oracle's historical strong suit.
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#48When is someone going to make this: Example 1 --------- Me: "Create a new Customer Record" DB: "Customer Entity doesn't exist, shall I create it?" Me: "Yes" DB: "Customer Entity created. What is the Name of your Record?" Me: "Larry Ellison" DB: "Customer, Larry Ellison created" Example 2 --------- Me: "How many customers are there?" DB: "There are 123 customers" Example 3 --------- Me: "How many customers have accoun…
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I almost do this. My main APIs are POST/GET sqlite databases (ie: I build a sqlite db and return it like a file, then in clients and use it. Not using stupid JSON when I need long rows!). -- I'm dreaming about building a relational language and by the way build a RDBMS on top of maybe sqlite. I think exist a lot of potential for a relational store with more flexibility Think: with both in-memory and on-disk data stor…
Transferring whole sqlite databases makes sense when one side (usually the client) really uses the file as semi-persistent database for some non-trivial timespan (we actually do that for most of our mobile applications, usually for long-lived read only reference data, but one of our applications actually POSTs modified sqlite files back to server as part of normal operation, which is in fact mainly a hackish way to o…
The problem is that using sqlite it also embed a functional query engine, when a simple data format requiere extra layers to make it work.
So even better is to have a sqlite-like engine that allow partial/streamable reading/writes.