FBI Hunt for 2 Missing Pigs Reveals Federal Cover-Up of Barbaric Factory Farms
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#2For reference you might consider watching the excellent documentaries "Our Daily Bread," and "Food, inc"
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#3I think its hard to morally justify consuming animal products in this day and age, under a capitalist system where animal welfare is not recognised.
For people that want to eat or use animal products you should consider hunting for your own food, rearing your own chickens or just cutting back.
The ecological problems and the blatant disregard for animals rights are too much and a top down approach doesn't seem possible considering the power these big agricorps have.
It's time for individuals to make the conscious decision to opt out.
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#4I think its hard to morally justify consuming animal products in this day and age, under a capitalist system where animal welfare is not recognised. For people that want to eat or use animal products you should consider hunting for your own food, rearing your own chickens or just cutting back. The ecological problems and the blatant disregard for animals rights are too much and a top down approach doesn't seem possib…
The moral pitch for abstinence from meat in general, or meat one hasn’t killed themselves, is one of the most unsuccessful animal rights campaigns in history. People like meat. Those same people are moving into cities. The population is not going to hunt.
Moral arguments are fun to make, but without a plan they’re just bloviation. Pushing people to prioritise humane legislation, advocating a switch from intelligent animals and related methods, while less emotionally satisfying, are altogether more effective.
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#5I think its hard to morally justify consuming animal products in this day and age, under a capitalist system where animal welfare is not recognised. For people that want to eat or use animal products you should consider hunting for your own food, rearing your own chickens or just cutting back. The ecological problems and the blatant disregard for animals rights are too much and a top down approach doesn't seem possib…
I have no trouble morally justifying it.
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#6I think its hard to morally justify consuming animal products in this day and age, under a capitalist system where animal welfare is not recognised. For people that want to eat or use animal products you should consider hunting for your own food, rearing your own chickens or just cutting back. The ecological problems and the blatant disregard for animals rights are too much and a top down approach doesn't seem possib…
I don't morally justify it, no matter how barbaric it is.
For me, meat just taste too good.
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#7I think its hard to morally justify consuming animal products in this day and age, under a capitalist system where animal welfare is not recognised. For people that want to eat or use animal products you should consider hunting for your own food, rearing your own chickens or just cutting back. The ecological problems and the blatant disregard for animals rights are too much and a top down approach doesn't seem possib…
The moral pitch for abstinence from meat in general, or meat one hasn’t killed themselves, is one of the most unsuccessful animal rights campaigns in history. People like meat. Those same people are moving into cities. The population is not going to hunt. Moral arguments are fun to make, but without a plan they’re just bloviation. Pushing people to prioritise humane legislation, advocating a switch from intelligent a…
There are many coherent, good arguments against animal product consumption which have nothing to do with morality. Environmental cost of production and subsequent effect on health are two popular arguments for abandoning animal foods. There are also the poor workers in slaughterhouses and surrounding communities to be concerned about, e.g.: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/20/north-caroli...
Re: FBI Hunt for 2 Missing Pigs Reveals Federal Cover-Up of Barbaric Factory Farms
#8Activists were filming, under cover, a farm being heinous to pigs, saw two piglets in a dire state, and absconded with them. The FBI got involved to get the pigs back.
There’s a legitimate question around why public dollars are being spent on a relatively minor crime. But that legitimacy is lost by the article blowing a reasonable law enforcement response to a theft into a “cover up”.
I have a pet theory to explain why animal rights organisations are so often ineffective. The organisations that effect change get fewer donations than those that piss people off. This, together with institutional prerogatives, results in the villification of reasonable le enforcement actions over trying to pass legislation.
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#9I think its hard to morally justify consuming animal products in this day and age, under a capitalist system where animal welfare is not recognised. For people that want to eat or use animal products you should consider hunting for your own food, rearing your own chickens or just cutting back. The ecological problems and the blatant disregard for animals rights are too much and a top down approach doesn't seem possib…
I don't morally justify it, no matter how barbaric it is. For me, meat just taste too good.
That's not a justification, though, as there is a victim involved. Also, it is not the meat that tastes good, but rather cooking with plant-based seasonings, spices and additions which make a decaying carcass actually palatable. Given that it's possible to emulate the same nutritional profiles and even taste of meat with entirely non-animal derived ingredients, the choice here is pretty clear.
Re: FBI Hunt for 2 Missing Pigs Reveals Federal Cover-Up of Barbaric Factory Farms
#10Activists were filming, under cover, a farm being heinous to pigs, saw two piglets in a dire state, and absconded with them. The FBI got involved to get the pigs back. There’s a legitimate question around why public dollars are being spent on a relatively minor crime. But that legitimacy is lost by the article blowing a reasonable law enforcement response to a theft into a “cover up”. I have a pet theory to explain w…
Is such animal mistreatment in a farm not a crime in the states in question? I find it absurd and sad that the "crime" of documentation and rescue even enters the discussion, when the FBI resources should clearly be used to investigate the far, far greater misdeed taking place at the farm itself.