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If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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The way they wrote the article really convinced me that it was a minor issue.

They train their Apple store staff to speak in a similar manner, to play down any problems and try to sidestep aknowleging that there is a fault with the product.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

So true. My experience was that upgrading Apple OSes was a safe and reliable experience. I'd almost always upgrade on launch day or the day after. As of the last 2-3 releases that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Their quality assurance has decreased so much that, for productivity sake, I just can't risk it.

After the debacle that was the Sierra upgrade (we had all of our users get locked out of their machines after the upgrade reboot and countless issues with Wifi), I'm hesitant to think about High Sierra or iOS 11.

Apple's reputation for high prices was always offset by high quality. If they keep skimping on the quality side, I'd imagine their leverage on the pricing side is going to get hurt (eventually).

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #91
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. What are you on about? Audio jack is there. > They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging And? Mouse lasts MONTHS on a single charge. It notifies you 12 hours ahead that it needs charging. A 5 min charge can last you an hour. I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all time…

The mouse thing really irks me. The moment the mouse needs charging is the moment is stop working. So why am I expected to then not use the product while it charges? A product that used to have a wire connected to it and is sitting right next to the computer ? How is having a hole in the bottom at better than having a hole on the side?

> So why am I expected to then not use the product while it charges?

Because Lightning cables are too flimsy, so doing so has a chance to break the cable at the connector end.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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How did Disk Utility.app go from being one of the great built-in OS X utilities to the embarrassing amateurish shit show that it is today? Perhaps the same people responsible for the file system engineering are also responsible for developing this user-facing application. They might excel at low level system engineering, but they are utterly unqualified to develop a high level GUI application. Spend 5 minutes with th…

I really don't get why they have allowed this crippled GUI for so long. I understand that they want to make it simple for low level users, but that seems like a bad excuse in this case as low level users aren't even going to use Disk Utility, just like they aren't going to use Automater. It shows a blindness to their market, i think. Anybody who is on my "free IT" list for the last few years has been receiving a Mac…

> I really don't get why they have allowed this crippled GUI for so long.

You explain it perfectly yourself:

> Anybody who is on my "free IT" list for the last few years has been receiving a Mac when it's time to upgrade.

As long as you still prefer Macs over anything else, Apple has no incentive whatsoever to be any better. They merely have to be just good enough for you not to switch and keep using macOS/iOS/etc.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #64

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

> I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I have the 12" MacBook and the keyboard is absolutely miserable. I seriously got warned by the Apple Store when I bought it that if I got any dust on the keyboard at all that the keys would get stuck, which is totally unrealistic. It turned out to be true, which has meant I mostly just don't use a laptop anymore, as the keyboard is just so unpleasant. I ha…

Preach it, brother. I bitterly regret my MacBook purchase for exactly the same reasons

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

#176
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mouse thing really irks me. The moment the mouse needs charging is the moment is stop working. So why am I expected to then not use the product while it charges? A product that used to have a wire connected to it and is sitting right next to the computer ? How is having a hole in the bottom at better than having a hole on the side?

I don't think it's about the hole. Someone decided: - users would have a better experience if the mouse was wireless - if left to their own devices, users will tend to leave the mouse plugged in and use it as a wired mouse so they solved that contradiction by taking away the option of missing out on wirelessness.

> users would have a better experience if the mouse was wireless

Where 'better experience' is defined as 'not having a mouse until it charges back up'?

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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If you don't want to reformat (and you aren't re-using a password you've used elsewhere) you can change the password: 1. Open Disk Utility and select the volume 2. Select File, Change Password 3. IMPORTANT: If on High Sierra GM, leave the hint field blank. If you've installed the update then you can provide a new hint. Word of warning: the most secure course of action is to follow the instructions in the linked suppo…

And leave the old hint sitting on your drive as “\x00ld-password”? No thanks.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #172

The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

So true. My experience was that upgrading Apple OSes was a safe and reliable experience. I'd almost always upgrade on launch day or the day after. As of the last 2-3 releases that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Their quality assurance has decreased so much that, for productivity sake, I just can't risk it. After the debacle that was the Sierra upgrade (we had all of our users get locked out of their machines af…

Oddly Sierra has been the easiest MacOS upgrade I've ever had. Barely noticed it other than having to rerun xcode-select --install; even some of the obscurer libraries I'd installed are still working. (I haven't moved to High Sierra yet.)

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #91
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. What are you on about? Audio jack is there. > They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging And? Mouse lasts MONTHS on a single charge. It notifies you 12 hours ahead that it needs charging. A 5 min charge can last you an hour. I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all time…

The mouse thing really irks me. The moment the mouse needs charging is the moment is stop working. So why am I expected to then not use the product while it charges? A product that used to have a wire connected to it and is sitting right next to the computer ? How is having a hole in the bottom at better than having a hole on the side?

I have one on my desk. It's the biggest non-issue ever. Do you ever need to go to the bathroom? Or get up and get a drink of water? Plug it in, and by the time you come back, you have enough charge to last you the rest of the day. Remember to plug it in overnight, and you've got at least a month of charge. It's just a ridiculous complaint that it can't be used while plugged in. It's a wireless mouse - why would you want it to have a wire?

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #71

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

> They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. What are you on about? Audio jack is there. > They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging And? Mouse lasts MONTHS on a single charge. It notifies you 12 hours ahead that it needs charging. A 5 min charge can last you an hour. I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all time…

Hey Jerry2.

From the tone you're using and the things you're saying it looks like you're lost and are looking for Reddit.

I have no interest in taking your comment seriously and reply to your accusation that I am not writing this comment from a MacBook Pro.

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