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Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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Edge is a good browser, people seem to default to criticizing it because of its infamous predecessor. We should root for Edge, it is in the open Web best interest to have several browsers sharing the market.

I have an Atom 2in1 and Edge is unusably slow and buggy on it. Chrome and Firefox work fine. It's also impossible to click and select part of url as it jumps around.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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I think part of the reason for this is that you shouldn't be web browsing with old software. It's unsafe for you and others that your hardware could damage.

But apps should be update-able separately, not as part of an operating system update. That doesn't make much sense. Especially on mobile when you might want to only update single app currently relevant to you without blocking your phone for 40 minutes doing a huge update of everything. Also limited bandwidth.

We've not been in a world where the web browser can be separated from the OS for at least 7 years.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

#153

Edge is a good browser, people seem to default to criticizing it because of its infamous predecessor. We should root for Edge, it is in the open Web best interest to have several browsers sharing the market.

No.

Root for other browsers, sure.

But Microsoft's? No.

They wantonly abused their market position in the 90s & stalled the advancement of the web for years.

There many other worth products to cheer for rather than the latest offering from a habitual bad actor.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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TL;DR: it's NOT using its own engine on Android. It uses Blink there. " On iOS, we are using the WebKit engine, as provided by iOS in the WKWebView control. That means that from a compatibility perspective, Microsoft Edge for iOS should match the version of Safari that is currently available for iOS. " " On Android, we are using the Blink rendering engine from the Chromium browser project. " Source: https://news.ycom…

The reality is that a lot of sites query the UserAgent and deliver platform and browser specific sites. Google Search and Image Search are great examples of a crap experience if you're not using Safari on iOS or Chrome on Android. Microsoft is skirting around this by using each platform's engine and providing the user the best experience they can. \* Also they don't have a choice on iOS because Apple.

They can set the user agent to whatever they want.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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post #153

Edge is a good browser, people seem to default to criticizing it because of its infamous predecessor. We should root for Edge, it is in the open Web best interest to have several browsers sharing the market.

No. Root for other browsers, sure. But Microsoft's? No. They wantonly abused their market position in the 90s & stalled the advancement of the web for years. There many other worth products to cheer for rather than the latest offering from a habitual bad actor.

So the alternative is google who do the same damn things.

The real problem is this is still webkit/blink and ultimately control still goes to google.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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Edge isn't great if you use tabs; it tends to lose them on crash/restart and doesn't make it easy to have lots of them. It also seems to suffer from the same weird font rendering as a lot of Metro apps.

Edge isn't great period. There are too many janky UI and design choices - probably because it is part of that whole benighted Metro ecosystem. The thing that really drove me nuts was how the address bar jumps around when you're trying to select part of a URL, which makes it so much harder than it ought to be when you are trying to click and drag with a mouse, let alone a touch interface.

One thing that catches me surprisingly often when I use Edge (which is very, very rarely, contributing to this), is that all the browser controls, like Back, stay in focus when you click them until you click something else. I don't think any other common browser has this behaviour, which is why I'm not used to un-focusing them, and the next press of space definitely does something I did not intend it to do.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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post #113

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Edge is not a good browser. It is holding the web back with its slow adoption of HTML5 standards. (source: https://html5test.com/compare/browser/chrome-58/edge-12.html ) Edge still has a spoof referrer header vulnerability that's been known for more than 6 months now: https://www.brokenbrowser.com/referer-spoofing-patch-bypass/

Firstly you're comparing today's Chrome with an Edge copy from more than 2 years ago. Secondly, html5test scores are bullshit. It gives a points utterly arbitrarily; you still get 5 points for continuing to implement rejected specifications like Web SQL, while actually useful features like the FileSystem API or WebAssembly gets you nothing. I've never used Edge and have no particular interest in it, but html5test is…

(Not to say that Chrome users shouldn’t feel good about themselves for other reasons, just not their browser’s html5test score)

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

#158

Installed, got temperature in Farenheit in the weather widget, found no settings to use Celsius, concluded it's not near polished enough. Back to Google Now Launcher.

there is an option to get Celsius. click on the gear icon on the weather app or on it. itll show the options. genius

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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I’m one among many I know who upgraded my work system from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and regret it even after a year! The upgrade process was smooth, but every once in a while, it won’t allow me to login - it will just repeatedly throw an error saying my credentials are invalid (though they’re not). The solution is to try switching login methods, turn off the network, wait for several minutes or some combination of the…

You're arguing in favor of OS segmentation on a developer forum. Please no! Disclosure: I work for Microsoft.

He's arguing in favor of a working system. If MS can't get win10 to work properly, then OS segmentation is the solution, not the problem.

Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher

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One of the most common requests we hear from people who use Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 PCs is "we want our browser experience to move to our phones". That's funny, my most common request is "IT'S BEEN LIKE 5 YEARS, CAN YOU GUYS FINALLY SUPPORT ALL OF THE INDEXEDDB API? EVEN SAFARI DOES IT NOW!" So sad when poor multinational corporations simply don't have the resources to compete with obscenely wealthy organization…

> most common requests we hear from people who use Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 PCs Are there really people using Microsoft Edge out there? I mean, because they want to, not because they have to?

The problem is that Google refuses to adopt modern Windows standards and integration with their Windows products such as Chrome, resulting in a sub-par Windows experience on modern touch & pen enabled Windows devices and many frustrated users, not to mention worse battery life than needed.

https://np.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6hozrf/new_surface_...

https://np.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6o8t9m/what_interne...

Google is notorious for their half-baked Windows support

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14835776

Chrome has nothing that's on par with the Edge's built-in "Set Tabs Aside" session manager (even retaining tab history)

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/01/31/micro...

among a few other things https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge

and more coming in the Fall Creators Update

And since Edge is a modern UI UWP app, it has better fullscreen multi-tasking

https://np.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/65t3tg/so_edge_ha...

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