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If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

This High Sierra bug is bizarre and disturbing. But Apple would have to commit an act of outright betrayal (such as lying about FaceID off-device storage) before I would consider going back to Android. Not because I think there is concerted malice by the Android overseers (partly because that kind of control doesn't really exist as it does with Apple), but because the potential for negligent design to cause damage se…

Good point. While there are some disappointing developments in macOS/iOS land (even hardware), I still much prefer that ecosystem to the Windows/Google/Android datenkraken.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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If you don't want to reformat (and you aren't re-using a password you've used elsewhere) you can change the password:

1. Open Disk Utility and select the volume 2. Select File, Change Password 3. IMPORTANT: If on High Sierra GM, leave the hint field blank. If you've installed the update then you can provide a new hint.

Word of warning: the most secure course of action is to follow the instructions in the linked support article.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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How did Disk Utility.app go from being one of the great built-in OS X utilities to the embarrassing amateurish shit show that it is today? Perhaps the same people responsible for the file system engineering are also responsible for developing this user-facing application. They might excel at low level system engineering, but they are utterly unqualified to develop a high level GUI application. Spend 5 minutes with th…

I really don't get why they have allowed this crippled GUI for so long. I understand that they want to make it simple for low level users, but that seems like a bad excuse in this case as low level users aren't even going to use Disk Utility, just like they aren't going to use Automater. It shows a blindness to their market, i think. Anybody who is on my "free IT" list for the last few years has been receiving a Mac…

There are times that installing macOS requires a trip through Disk Utility, is why. Disk Utility.app is basically made for the single use case of "modify the system to make macOS installable."

The thing to understand, is that everyone inside Apple uses diskutil(8), not Disk Utility.app. diskutil(8) is the "canonical" way to do almost everything related to Disk management on macOS, the same way diskmgmt.msc is on Windows. Everything else is a secondary "convenience" view to just allow certain workflows (like installing macOS without overwriting things, or unlocking a FileVault volume with a master password to install macOS on it) to be accomplished more easily—like the Properties view of a disk drive in Windows.

If there are other "convenience views" of disk management that you think would be helpful, why not make them into an app and sell it? One my favourite macOS programs, DaisyDisk, is basically just such a convenience view. People are willing to buy these—especially as a gift for their "prosumer" friends. Apple can't predict every use-case that a prosumer might want an accelerator for, but the free market probably can.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. What are you on about? Audio jack is there. > They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging And? Mouse lasts MONTHS on a single charge. It notifies you 12 hours ahead that it needs charging. A 5 min charge can last you an hour. I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all time…

The mouse thing really irks me. The moment the mouse needs charging is the moment is stop working. So why am I expected to then not use the product while it charges? A product that used to have a wire connected to it and is sitting right next to the computer ? How is having a hole in the bottom at better than having a hole on the side?

I wouldn't mind it so much if the low battery alert was actually useful.

But it only pops out when there's like 1% battery left in the mouse - basically making sure you will lose power soon. The sheer lack of thinking here boggles the mind. Guys, it's an alert, it's not useful at all if I get it right before the bad thing happens.

How would you like it if I switched on my turn signal 1 second before I actually turn my vehicle in front of you?

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

#137
post #71

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

> They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. What are you on about? Audio jack is there. > They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging And? Mouse lasts MONTHS on a single charge. It notifies you 12 hours ahead that it needs charging. A 5 min charge can last you an hour. I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all time…

> What are you on about? Audio jack is there.

They removed the audio jack from their phones and their "pro" laptops barely have any ports left. Some people use those, you know.

> I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all times.

The OP clearly doesn't.

> Please list it. I'm dying to know more!

Just a few of the top of my head:

mDNSResponder, GPU drivers, WiFi issues, Safari used to crash a lot, goto fail, there was the fun one were the GPU driver was loaded too late so that ... something something color profiles ... your screen had a blue tint the whole fucking time. Lots of good stuff, really.

> Silly opinion.

I'd love to elaborate on this one but I'm afraid my MBP will overheat when continue typing.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is a blatant lie. No, it's not. Try recovering your iCloud password from the web right now. I couldn't believe it either. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204921 "For your security, recovery includes a waiting period that may be several days or longer depending on the information you can provide to verify your identity. Apple Support cannot help you shorten this time. "

Google also has a similar process for some password resets.

It's interesting to me how much of the Apple apologia has become, `it's not as bad as ${getCompanyfromContext()}` or `${getRandomCompetitor()} does it too, so that makes it ok`

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Description: 'If a hint was set in Disk Utility when creating an APFS encrypted volume, the password was stored as the hint. This was addressed by clearing hint storage if the hint was the password, and by improving the logic for storing hints.' https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208165

Absolute incompetence. Absolute, utter incompetence. The developer responsible for this should create static HTML front ends for the rest of their life. They are not fit for writing security related code.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps they were busy testing header font sizes in iOS?

I'm fairly certain Apple can do two things at once. This was probably introduced in the GM seed.

Why do you say that it was probably introduced in the GM seed? Is something in this area known to have changed significantly around then?
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