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If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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It's rather frightening that a bug as serious as this one got past Apple's QA. It seems like the list of known problems with the new Disk Utility is growing - recently there was a submission about how High Sierra's Disk Utility did not show unformatted disks.

I really hope a head rolls for this mistake. That team needs some new leadership.

Nope. Why? Shit happens.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the laptops ship with a headphone jack so not sure what you are talking about.

Likely they were talking about the iPhone 7, which does not come with a laptop jack.

And the laptops only come with USB-C ports, and I'm yet to meet anybody who owns anything which can be plugged into one of those without a dongle (I suppose excluding their Mac charger :)).

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

> I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. How old is your Macbook Pro? Mine is 4 years and I still get 7-8 hours of charge even though I have been using the Battery almost everyday.

Same here. 2013 15” MBP here. I get 5 hours easily on High Sierra and the thing has been hammered since it was new.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #65
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the laptops ship with a headphone jack so not sure what you are talking about.

The comma is important. They removed the headphone jack (from their phone), and all of the significant ports from their laptops.

Right. I thought we were talking about Macs not iPhones but I see that the rant went on and included iPhones.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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post #35
post #4

how??! In what context does a clear-text password end up anywhere, except as the input for a hash function.

How? 1. Lack of automated unit tests covering the code in question. 2. Lack of automated functional tests running through scenarios of setting up an encrypted volume with or without a hint. 3. Lack of strict review process for the disk utility's codebase. This assumes automated tests are also peer-reviewed. 1 - 3 won't guarantee a bug-free project, but I doubt this bug would've made it into production.

1-2 kind of require having a proper UI testing framework in place. And when you have that for your platform that you want people to develop for, surely you would release it. I haven't seen any of that.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Description: 'If a hint was set in Disk Utility when creating an APFS encrypted volume, the password was stored as the hint. This was addressed by clearing hint storage if the hint was the password, and by improving the logic for storing hints.' https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208165

So basically if you set a hint your entire disk encryption became useless because the hint storage gave your password away? Yikes, hope no one was relying on that.

Keep in mind that this only happens if you turned it on using Disk Utility. If you did the normal upgrade (the vast majority of users) you didn't go through disk utility, and everything's fine (presumably). Still a terrible error, but affects far fewer people than your comment implied.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

I also decided against another macbook.

Apple quite obviously sees the notebook market as secondary. I don't blame them. i-device sales far outpace notebook sales.

But not everybody feels that way. I can get a pretty damn impressive linux box for the same cost.

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