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TIL ... about Nasal Snuff. Didn't even know this was a thing - do you get weird looks in public?
Called Snus. Banned in EU, but supposedly one of the healthiest nicotine injestion methods. Most people would puke if they tried it :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus
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If ~90% of patients did actually give up on it in reality then yes, I would say that because it wouldn't work for 90% of patients. The medical community would move away from it. Of course, that's not the reality. every single one of your arguments are hypothetical metaphors that have no connection to the facts of the issue at hand. You have no practical solutions. You're only answer is for people to 'toughen up'. Qui…
Is it ever appropriate for people to engage in self determination or should the lack of an easy solution always be an excuse for an individuals actions?
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"I did it, it should work for everyone!" We have decades of data showing that isn't the case.
I was just dropping in with a success story (which is important for anyone trying to quit because it's 1 more data point to reference). The reason most people fail to quit isn't because they are weak, or anything like that. It's simply because they don't want to really quit. I know of 6 people (including myself) who quit cold turkey after many years. The only thing we had in common was we were serious about quitting.…
It is, which is why ecigs are so great and why patches and gum have largely failed.
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And too much water will kill you; too much of anything is bad, the question is in what amount. However, I was unaware of the estrogen thing, very interesting, you do see that in women. As for it being a vasoconstrictor, so is caffeine and any number of other stimulants, that itself in not inherently bad, it's simply an effect.
Haha, I just have to comment that this is the funniest whataboutism I've ever seen: "Nicotine is bad for you." "What about water??"
"Cold turkey is best way to quit smoking, study says" http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/15/health/quit-smoking-cold-t... Not convinced switching people to a just as addicting, just as nasty way of killing themselves slowly is any better.
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Haha, I just have to comment that this is the funniest whataboutism I've ever seen: "Nicotine is bad for you." "What about water??"
That's not remotely whataboutism; whataboutism is when you're deflecting to another bad to justify something, I'm not deflecting nor justifying, I'm using reductio ad absurdum to make a point that everything is bad with enough quantity so simply calling nicotine bad because it's a vasoconstrictor-as stimulants tend to be-is not a valid argument. I suggest you learn the difference.
I don't know if it's intentional, but thanks for making my morning better. :)
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Actually, as I already mentioned, there are cases with flavoring additives and other chemicals in the vape causing lung disease and other problems. I don't have it offhand but google should help you. My sentiment is more about where I think the research will go.
Popcorn Lung is the only thing I've seen in my research https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/flavorings/ I'd be interested to hear of more.
I was friends with a major twitch streamer who used to vape literally 24/7, every stream. He got esophageal cancer and died after fighting it for ~1-2 years, roughly around age of 23. Now, obviously this is anecdotal, and obviously it could have just been bad luck/other factors/coincidence. But, I have always raised an eyebrow towards vaping since then. The only forms I consider safer with minimal consequence is dry herb based vaping with convection heat --- See silver surfer vapes for example.
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>Yes, there is so much public material implying that e-cigs are basically just as bad. It seems so irresponsible to me. Which material are you referring to? This is an outrageous claim.
Public service billboards, ads on buses, things like that. They don't claim it directly- they imply it by saying that smoking is bad, but so is vaping, so don't let your kids vape. Things like that. Look at this: http://stillblowingsmoke.org/ I mean right off the bat they're calling it smoke. That is so obviously an attempt to link e-cigs to tobacco. Hell, they even use the word tobacco on the page.
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That's not remotely whataboutism; whataboutism is when you're deflecting to another bad to justify something, I'm not deflecting nor justifying, I'm using reductio ad absurdum to make a point that everything is bad with enough quantity so simply calling nicotine bad because it's a vasoconstrictor-as stimulants tend to be-is not a valid argument. I suggest you learn the difference.
I have to admit, your reply here is actually making me laugh more than your original "what about water??". I don't know if it's intentional, but thanks for making my morning better. :)
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What are the health risks of vaping with non-nicotine-containing fluid? I thought that it was just atomized vegetable glycerin with a bit of flavoring, but I've not done much research into the matter.
Personal anecdote: I was never a cigarette smoker, but I started vaping because I tried a friend's vape once and liked it. I am a pretty serious athlete. Vaping - whether it was 3mg or 0mg e-juice - fucked with my lungs pretty badly, and caused a noticeable drop in athletic performance. Also made me feel way less motivated to lift weights and train, which I chalked up to the instant gratification of nicotine. When I…