Can Edge for iOS be selected as "default browser" in iOS so it is by default used in all the places Safari normally handles? The "send to PC" thing _is_ nice, but only if available everywhere and consistently.
Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
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Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is Edge for Windows. It's called Edge. Windows 10, is believe it or not, Windows. Any computer running Windows 7 or 8.1 can still (yes, it can) be upgraded to Windows 10 for free. So the only Windows PCs which cannot run Edge were those manufactured prior to 2009. Contrary to popular belief, there is no good reason to be running Windows 7 or 8.1. All of the telemetry anti-features were backported into those ver…
I’m one among many I know who upgraded my work system from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and regret it even after a year! The upgrade process was smooth, but every once in a while, it won’t allow me to login - it will just repeatedly throw an error saying my credentials are invalid (though they’re not). The solution is to try switching login methods, turn off the network, wait for several minutes or some combination of the…
You're arguing in favor of OS segmentation on a developer forum. Please no!
Disclosure: I work for Microsoft.
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#93Edge is a good browser, people seem to default to criticizing it because of its infamous predecessor. We should root for Edge, it is in the open Web best interest to have several browsers sharing the market.
Edge is not a good browser. It is holding the web back with its slow adoption of HTML5 standards. (source: https://html5test.com/compare/browser/chrome-58/edge-12.html)
Edge still has a spoof referrer header vulnerability that's been known for more than 6 months now: https://www.brokenbrowser.com/referer-spoofing-patch-bypass/
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
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I'm guessing this is the case with Chrome as well?
Yes, and it's because of an Apple policy. They don't allow other rendering engines.
It is not that they do not allow other render engines. It is that APIs to dynamically execute native code are locked down on platforms such as Windows Mobile and iOS. If you cannot dynamically execute code you cannot build a JIT JS engine which makes your webbrowser too slow compared to the competition.
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
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I’ve used edge. It’s fine. If MS had lots of people complaining about sites that didn’t work or said ‘Edge not supported’ to people who went there and that was because the site needed IndexDB I’m sure they would have added it. It clearly isn’t a huge issue for them. I can see people saying ‘If I use Edge my phone doesn’t sync bookmarks and stuff like Chrome so I use Chrome.’ I don’t think saying things like ‘people o…
it still lags behind in supporting various things. i had hoped edge would show a commitment to features and standards, but alas.
Such as?
I mean are they real problems or are they the bleeding edge stuff people are always mad Safari doesn’t have yet?
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is Edge for Windows. It's called Edge. Windows 10, is believe it or not, Windows. Any computer running Windows 7 or 8.1 can still (yes, it can) be upgraded to Windows 10 for free. So the only Windows PCs which cannot run Edge were those manufactured prior to 2009. Contrary to popular belief, there is no good reason to be running Windows 7 or 8.1. All of the telemetry anti-features were backported into those ver…
How does the free upgrade happen these days? I thought that was over in 2016? If it is still available somehow I have some machines I would upgrade.
The "Get Windows 10 app" is no longer available, but the Media Creation Tool will upgrade any PC running Windows 7 or 8.1, and you can fresh install Windows 10 on any PC using a valid Windows 7 or 8.1 key and it will activate. This is true even for versions of Windows 10 released after the "end" of the upgrade offer.
The only thing stating the upgrade offer has ended is "The Windows 10 free upgrade through the Get Windows 10 (GWX) app ended on July 29, 2016." Which is technically true, but the free upgrade is still offered through other methods.
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#97Edge is a good browser, people seem to default to criticizing it because of its infamous predecessor. We should root for Edge, it is in the open Web best interest to have several browsers sharing the market.
Edge is not a good browser. It is holding the web back with its slow adoption of HTML5 standards. (source: https://html5test.com/compare/browser/chrome-58/edge-12.html ) Edge still has a spoof referrer header vulnerability that's been known for more than 6 months now: https://www.brokenbrowser.com/referer-spoofing-patch-bypass/
Why are you comparing the latest version of Chrome to Edge 12, which according to Wikipedia was last released August 27, 2015?
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#98One of the most common requests we hear from people who use Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 PCs is "we want our browser experience to move to our phones". That's funny, my most common request is "IT'S BEEN LIKE 5 YEARS, CAN YOU GUYS FINALLY SUPPORT ALL OF THE INDEXEDDB API? EVEN SAFARI DOES IT NOW!" So sad when poor multinational corporations simply don't have the resources to compete with obscenely wealthy organization…
> most common requests we hear from people who use Microsoft Edge on Windows 10 PCs Are there really people using Microsoft Edge out there? I mean, because they want to, not because they have to?
I do. It is a great browser for the tablet. But in addition I just like it for regular usage as well. Only the developer tools are a bit unstable.
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#99Edge is a good browser, people seem to default to criticizing it because of its infamous predecessor. We should root for Edge, it is in the open Web best interest to have several browsers sharing the market.
Edge is not a good browser. It is holding the web back with its slow adoption of HTML5 standards. (source: https://html5test.com/compare/browser/chrome-58/edge-12.html ) Edge still has a spoof referrer header vulnerability that's been known for more than 6 months now: https://www.brokenbrowser.com/referer-spoofing-patch-bypass/
The version of Edge you're linking to on HTML5Test there is two years and four major versions out of date. Edge 16 is more than 100 points higher on HTML5Test.
More generally, there's a lot more to making the web great than a blind sprint to adopt every API. Just because it isn't shipping doesn't mean Microsoft isn't a (very) active participant in the standards conversations, testing behind flags, etc. That is a huge part of moving the web forward.
Take Grid as an example - we were the last browser to ship the updated spec, so you could say we "held it back." But we also originated the first version of the spec and worked closely with the community, standards bodies, and other browser vendors on making sure what ultimately shipped cross-browser this year was great, useful, and interoperable. Is that holding the web back?
(Disclaimer: Edge employee)
Re: Announcing Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android, Microsoft Launcher
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, and it's because of an Apple policy. They don't allow other rendering engines.
It is not that they do not allow other render engines. It is that APIs to dynamically execute native code are locked down on platforms such as Windows Mobile and iOS. If you cannot dynamically execute code you cannot build a JIT JS engine which makes your webbrowser too slow compared to the competition.
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