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Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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This works well for me (I use ‘sleep cycle’) but doesn’t solve my inability to actually get tired and go to bed at night.

Have you tried avoiding screens an hour or two before going to bed? Fill that time with reading or listening to podcasts.

Does the Kindle still count? I heard that it is different from computer screens because the light is backlit, not directly shown into your eyes.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Kid is 7 weeks old and have literally just found 40 minutes to work on a side project for the first time in a week.

It gets better after a few years mate, I generally have a few hours at night now to spend time with the missus, game/watch movies, do writing/side projects. This is with a 3.5 and 2 year old.

Well that's reassuring - thanks!

For what it's worth I don't regret it but man, I really do think "hmm... when will I next have 15 minutes where I have the use of both hands and no creature yelling at me and I'm not at work?"

I could just sleep less (with dire consequences noted here), but I've managed to keep getting 7 hours or so a day (not all in one go, but it could be worse).

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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This is one of the reasons I hate the eight-hour work day. Between that and all of the other shit you have to do in a day (commute, chores, eating, exercise etc.), it seems like there's little to no opportunity to just have a life. I know it sounds like first world problems (people used to work 100 hour weeks), but I think our culture needs to change before we can really put the onus on people to improve their sleepi…

Many advanced nations outside the United States (talking mainly about Europe) have learned long ago that the eight hour workday is too much. But in many places in the United States, an eight hour workday would be considered quite short. The other issue is annual vacation time; it's surprisingly short on average in United States compared to most other places.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Most of the problems being discussed here in this thread regarding work hours per week, commute times, finding time for leisure and exercise and family time, the time spent dropping off kids at school, etc -- there are mostly unique to America. Americans could really learn a lot about how successful you can be despite spending less time at work, as well as less time fretting about other things, by looking at any of many countries on the continent of Europe, who offer a much better work/life balance but with no sacrifice on work output.

Some of the most talented and productive developers I know are in the Netherlands, France and Germany, and have a lifestyle that would be considered impossible by many in the States.

The brain needs time to recharge, time away from "work", time to think about work without actually doing work, and the punch that gets packed into a shorter work day can be much greater if the brain is working at optimum capacity, which usually doesn't happen if it is taxed for loads of hours day after day after day.

For me personally, my best ideas come when I am away from a computer, and my brain is free to wander. The more time I sit at a computer, ironically the less likely good ideas will come. Most work environments in the States have not learned this yet.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Most of the problems being discussed here in this thread regarding work hours per week, commute times, finding time for leisure and exercise and family time, the time spent dropping off kids at school, etc -- there are mostly unique to America. Americans could really learn a lot about how successful you can be despite spending less time at work, as well as less time fretting about other things, by looking at any of m…

Considered impossible due to the different laws set by companies for their employees. European employees get way more vacation time among other things, and American employees get a whole lot of pressure due to the fact that they can be fired anytime with no warning or explanation while places in Europe, for example Denmark, make it much harder to fire employees on a whim, which inherently puts a whole lot pressure on the American employee

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Most of the problems being discussed here in this thread regarding work hours per week, commute times, finding time for leisure and exercise and family time, the time spent dropping off kids at school, etc -- there are mostly unique to America. Americans could really learn a lot about how successful you can be despite spending less time at work, as well as less time fretting about other things, by looking at any of m…

Considered impossible due to the different laws set by companies for their employees. European employees get way more vacation time among other things, and American employees get a whole lot of pressure due to the fact that they can be fired anytime with no warning or explanation while places in Europe, for example Denmark, make it much harder to fire employees on a whim, which inherently puts a whole lot pressure on…

Everything you said is exactly the point I am making.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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I also used to feel this way. What worked for me is to not to do some of these things. For example, I got a robot vacuum cleaner and a robot mop. For any additional cleaning, I have a cleaning lady that comes every once in a while. This saves me a couple of hours of cleaning each month. If the car breaks, or something needs to be done around the house, I hire someone to do it. Groceries are delivered according to a s…

> Labour cost are so low here, and salaries in IT are so high Where’s this magical place?

I would bet Eastern Europe, maybe Romania.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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How many hours do people work, really, though. If management became more lenient of people going home when the day's work is over, I imagine we would be a lot closer to 4hrs/day.

If my workplace announced that policy I'd just assume they wanted to know how productive I actually was. I would leave on time to signal that I had an appropriate workload.

And then people would ask why you can't handle more.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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By use of meditation and yoga I've found the opposite to be true. The system I've used is described somewhat here http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog/lifestyle/health-fitness/10-he... Edit: downvotes why?

I wouldn't downvote you (even if I could) for adding to the discussion, but this certainly isn't the sort of content I come to HN to explore. Outlandish claims without anything to back them up.

Fair enough. Can only back up with personal experience at this point. "It works for me"

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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I also used to feel this way. What worked for me is to not to do some of these things. For example, I got a robot vacuum cleaner and a robot mop. For any additional cleaning, I have a cleaning lady that comes every once in a while. This saves me a couple of hours of cleaning each month. If the car breaks, or something needs to be done around the house, I hire someone to do it. Groceries are delivered according to a s…

> Labour cost are so low here, and salaries in IT are so high Where’s this magical place?

A good chunk of his advice is applicable even in moderately high-cost labour countries such as Germany or the Netherlands.
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