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Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by TsomArp »

kilroy123 wrote: post #283
TsomArp wrote: post #219

I bought a second-hand Pixel on Ebay. The seller sent it complete with boxes, manual, etc. After 6 months it received an OTA and now is a 600 dollars paperweight. They tell me that since the phone, which is not reported stolen, is assigned to another account they cannot do anything about it. I have contacted the seller but she won't respond. Be aware of this.

Have you tried sideloading an update manually? It's really easy and quick to do. https://developers.google.com/android/ota

I will try it. I tried to get into download mode and recovery, and no luck.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by m3kw9 »

ehsankia wrote: post #431
mullingitover wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also worth noting that Nexus line was more of a budget phone She paid over $600 for it, I wouldn't exactly call it a bargain bin device.

600$, compared to 800$ for a comparable Pixel phone. That 200$ difference is the premium you pay for good support. The Pixel doesn't really have anything else that the 6P didn't have.

So Google treats customers like that? Pay for a more expensive product, get better support?

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by will_hughes »

sundvor wrote: post #451
DSingularity wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been android all my life. Bought almost every phone on the Google store. After the Nexus 6p experience -- I made an oath to my self to never buy another Google phone again. From the onset it was broke. We are talking just a week after I bought, I started noticing a pattern of complaints about the audio clarity. I call support, what do I get? A refurb. Whatever, phone was just released -- probably gonna be a new phone…

Ah, mobile phones.. :-) I think my first phone was the Motorola Micro Tac, which was revolutionary for price and size. It selled like hotcakes in Norway on release in .. 93? Then the Nokia 8110, which I loved - it had WAP! :) Then (in Australia) I had the great misfortune of buying into Hutchinson's first 3g phone - the Motorola A920. Switched after a while to the Motorola Razr - awesome - upgraded to the SLVR L7 - a…

I've been on Android since the DevPhone1, had to import it to Aus using a reshipper.

I got a Samsung Galaxy S when it first came out while on a trip to the UK. I've always thought Samsung made good hardware generally, but their insistance on fucking with the Android experience is what stops me really liking it. I don't want their S Notes or their S Calendar, etc. Putting a custom ROM on it tended to be a better experience than stock.

The current bullshit with Bixby is also not encouraging - I want a stock Android experience.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by intrasight »

MattyRad wrote: post #128

I bought a Pixel when it came out, switching from the Nexus 5 primarily because Project Fi was an easy, cheap way to get off my parent's cell-phone plan and gain some personal independence. It was about time for a new phone anyway. I wish I had just stuck with the Nexus 5... it was a fantastic phone. Wireless charging (which I personally found to be the most useful feature), excellent dimensions, excellent price, and…

I still have a Nexus 5, and it's been solid for many years. It would be really painful to spend twice as much on a phone and get half or less the lifetime from it. So sad that there's not an equivalent phone available today!

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by duxup »

humblebee wrote: post #205
eloisant wrote: post #156

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Does it get updates as fast as a Nexus/Pixel?

Yes it appears so > Like all Android One phones, Android One moto x4 runs a pure Android experience .... You’ll also get access to the latest updates from Android, such as Android Oreo before the end of the year. Android One moto x4 will be among the first to receive an upgrade to Android P.

Provided Moto does the updates....it is up to them.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by fphhotchips »

m3kw9 wrote: post #462
ehsankia wrote: post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

600$, compared to 800$ for a comparable Pixel phone. That 200$ difference is the premium you pay for good support. The Pixel doesn't really have anything else that the 6P didn't have.

So Google treats customers like that? Pay for a more expensive product, get better support?

Er, yes. Welcome to Earth. There's no industry in the world where the person paying more $$$ doesn't routinely get better service.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by snuxoll »

dabernathy89 wrote: post #429
lopespm wrote: post #45

Honest question: for those of you who own a mobile device without a headphone jack, do you find it to be an encuberment? Personally I still find it a bit hostile to not have the jack available, since often times I find myself charging the phone and using the headphones (when watching videos for example), so having an adapter dongle for such a frequent task seems counterintuitive to me. I believe that if a device is c…

It annoys my wife. She can't use the earbuds that came with her phone to listen to anything on her iPad, b/c it only came with a dongle going the other direction (for connecting standard headphones to the iPhone). When we're in the car she can't charge & use the aux cable at the same time. Both of these could possibly be solved with 3rd party dongles, but it's silly to have to pay $20-30 extra for that.

I prefer solving the charge+car audio issue with a Bluetooth receiver which can be found for $25 on Amazon, my wife loves being able to play music in the car without snaking an AUX cable from the dash to the center console.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by mullingitover »

ehsankia wrote: post #431
mullingitover wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also worth noting that Nexus line was more of a budget phone She paid over $600 for it, I wouldn't exactly call it a bargain bin device.

600$, compared to 800$ for a comparable Pixel phone. That 200$ difference is the premium you pay for good support. The Pixel doesn't really have anything else that the 6P didn't have.

At the time it was released it was the single most expensive consumer product Google made.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by specto »

mullingitover wrote: post #170

I witnessed my girlfriend's Nexus 6p support experience with Google and it was not pretty. I would never buy a Google phone after that. The phone, just barely out of warranty, goes into a bootloop and becomes a paperweight. Google helpfully shrugs the problem off on Huawei, and Huawei will of course not support the product since it's out of warranty. There is no repair option. I tried Android early on, had similarly…

Same, it was a huge mistake...

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by alsocasey »

hypersoar wrote: post #227
mullingitover wrote: post #170

I witnessed my girlfriend's Nexus 6p support experience with Google and it was not pretty. I would never buy a Google phone after that. The phone, just barely out of warranty, goes into a bootloop and becomes a paperweight. Google helpfully shrugs the problem off on Huawei, and Huawei will of course not support the product since it's out of warranty. There is no repair option. I tried Android early on, had similarly…

It seems to make a big difference whether or not you buy it from Google. I've seen lots of complaints from Nexus 6P owners who didn't being shoved off to Huawei and their terrible support. But I bought mine from Google, who twice offered me RMAs after the warranty period was over with no resistance. Most recently they replaced it with a new Pixel XL, instead (due to stock issues, I assume). That being said, Google ne…

I bought directly and was passed around by Google and Huawei support for months (and multiple calls; hours of my time wasted - why can't anyone just do support by email anymore?) before ultimately giving up on getting the constant battery issues addressed. Initial contact was precisely 3 weeks outside of the warranty period for the now well-documented phone shuts off when battery reaches [15|30|50]%.

I feel like I purchased a year's worth of problem-free phone experience for nearly $CAD900. To me, that's not great value.

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