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An Update on Firefox Containers

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Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by bryanlarsen »

Larrikin wrote: post #7
bryanlarsen wrote: post #5

They mentioned my main peeve about containers: IMO control-T should open a new tab in the current container rather than in the default container. They implied that this could be fixed in an extension and linked some extensions, but those extensions appear to do other things. Has anybody found an extension that changes the control-T behaviour? Thanks. Edit: They've totally got the default right. Pressing control-T fro…

Seems to work that way now with the extension and now you can assign sites to different containers so they auto open in the correct tab.

I've got the updated extension and control-T still opens in the default tab.

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by forgotmypw »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #5

They mentioned my main peeve about containers: IMO control-T should open a new tab in the current container rather than in the default container. They implied that this could be fixed in an extension and linked some extensions, but those extensions appear to do other things. Has anybody found an extension that changes the control-T behaviour? Thanks. Edit: They've totally got the default right. Pressing control-T fro…

One of the few things I like about Chrome more than Firefox is the way it handles "Personas", a similar feature.

Selecting a new "persona" opens a new window, and pressing C+T opens a new tab.

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by JosephLark »

I really like this! First time I've actually tried it out now that it's an extension. Seeing an issue with the always open in this container feature though - clicking on a YouTube link set to always open in a 'Personal' container, it's opening multiple new container tabs. At first it was just a duplication with new tabs, but now it seems to be opening three tabs.

Edit: Above is when opening from a default tab. Maybe this is expected, but the clicked links show as visited in the default tab even when they're opened in a container tab. Perhaps this is to be expected, but it seems like a type of information leakage across containers? Actually, seems like links clicked in the default container show as visited in other containers. Odd as well is that I'm not seeing the duplicate tab issue when clicking YT links from a non-default container.

Edit 2: Is there any way to opt-out of "always" opening a specific site in a given container? Say I configure youtube to always open in a personal container, but for some reason I now have to test something in a work container on youtube. Is that possible? Or do I need to go edit out the config and then replace it when I'm done?

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by JosephLark »

Larrikin wrote: post #8

Does anyone have any advice on how best to use this? Is it really best to make all shopping websites open in the same containers? Any thoughts on what sites/kinds of sites should definitely be in their own containers. Any recommended categories besides the default container categories?

I wonder about this as well. What are people finding is the best use of the default container - what opens as a new tab?

Do you keep that your personal container, and opt-in to other containers like work, shopping, etc.

Or do you use the default container as your most used type - perhaps work - and opt-in to personal/shopping containers as needed?

Keep the default container blank and try to always open up a specific container?

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by clumsysmurf »

I love this feature, but it seems missing a critical thing. You can say 'always open websites A1, A2, A3 in container Y' but you can't say 'container Y only hosts websites A1, A2, A3'.

After time the container gets polluted with cookies from links clicked on website Ax.

Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

Edit: replaces 1 website with multiple websites

Edit 2 : Another useful feature, would be cookie policy per container. So when I quit FF, I can delete all cookies except those in Container X

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by stuartd »

Larrikin wrote: post #8

Does anyone have any advice on how best to use this? Is it really best to make all shopping websites open in the same containers? Any thoughts on what sites/kinds of sites should definitely be in their own containers. Any recommended categories besides the default container categories?

Anything where you have to log into an account with a secondary identity. So I have one for my work account Azure as it’s a different Microsoft account, one for work Google API projects as it’s a different Google account, etc. Used to have to use different browsers (even IE, ugh) but now there’s no need. I love containers (longtime Nightly user) but the UI is hard to get right and even harder to make intuitive, so I’m not surprised they made it an extension.

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by irishsultan »

JosephLark wrote: post #13

I really like this! First time I've actually tried it out now that it's an extension. Seeing an issue with the always open in this container feature though - clicking on a YouTube link set to always open in a 'Personal' container, it's opening multiple new container tabs. At first it was just a duplication with new tabs, but now it seems to be opening three tabs. Edit: Above is when opening from a default tab. Maybe…

For your question about opting out: if you are not in the container that the site "always" opens in it will offer you a choice of opening it in your current container or in the default container for that site, at least it does for me.

What I would like is the option to assign a site to two different containers, so mail.google.com would not offer me to switch when in in Personal or in Work, but would give me the choice to open it in either when I'm in a default container.

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

design (coloring of tabs for banking etc) seems to be heavily borrowed from QubesOS. For those not running Qubes using isolation like this is a really great step forward in steering users awareness and training them to properly isolate. I applaud these decisions by Mozilla since for avg users it can be daunting to think for themselves about where the trust boundaries are.

Re: An Update on Firefox Containers

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Post by JosephLark »

irishsultan wrote: post #17
JosephLark wrote: post #13

I really like this! First time I've actually tried it out now that it's an extension. Seeing an issue with the always open in this container feature though - clicking on a YouTube link set to always open in a 'Personal' container, it's opening multiple new container tabs. At first it was just a duplication with new tabs, but now it seems to be opening three tabs. Edit: Above is when opening from a default tab. Maybe…

For your question about opting out: if you are not in the container that the site "always" opens in it will offer you a choice of opening it in your current container or in the default container for that site, at least it does for me. What I would like is the option to assign a site to two different containers, so mail.google.com would not offer me to switch when in in Personal or in Work, but would give me the choic…

I did get that as well. I'm confused why this is the default. I imagine it's just the learning curve of this feature, I totally understand why they have the need to spin off certain expected-default behavior to further extensions.

So I just told you to always open a site in a specific container, and then you're going to ask me when I next load that site starting from another container whether to open in the container I've asked the site to always be opened in. Why would my choice be anything except 'Open in Container' and 'Remember my decision for this site'. Isn't that what I already asked you to do?

Why am I setting the same preference twice? It seems like the opt-out is there by default when I don't want it, and not there when I do.

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