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I witnessed my girlfriend's Nexus 6p support experience with Google and it was not pretty. I would never buy a Google phone after that. The phone, just barely out of warranty, goes into a bootloop and becomes a paperweight. Google helpfully shrugs the problem off on Huawei, and Huawei will of course not support the product since it's out of warranty. There is no repair option. I tried Android early on, had similarly…

Take a look at the chinese manufacturers if you want good android phones.

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Be careful with the unlimited video storage deal because it's not really unlimited video?

It's unlimited until 2020[0] and then I'm guessing you'll have to pay for it afterwards, and after a few years of taking videos without caring about space, you're probably going to rack up a massive bill or have to spend a ton of time cherry picking what you want to save.

Their plan is pretty smart tho. Most people will be like "screw it, I'll just buy another phone to avoid spending that just to keep my videos".

[0]: https://i.imgur.com/M5LYvrH.png (read the fine print)

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> When they removed floppy drives it was because there was a better alternative. When they removed that -- or any of the other things -- there was still some backlash from people who still had uses for them, and still wanted them. > I don’t agree that Bluetooth is a better alternative than a cord that is 100% reliable to pair, perfect audio quality, and never needs to be charged From what I've heard the ear pods are…

> From what I've heard the ear pods are very reliable to pair and have good audio quality. I think the comparison to removal of floppy drives fails here because neither is clearly superior to the other. Wired headphones are inconvenient (you need a wire) but have great sound quality and reliability. They're also cheap. Wireless headphones are convenient in some aspects (no wires) but inconvenient in others (need to c…

> have decent quality and somewhat less reliability

I don't believe that is inherently true about wireless headphones.

Re: tradeoffs, you can say that about any set of alternatives, and there can still be one option that in the long term is best for most people. Eg horses vs cars as means for personal transport.

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This. So much this. I had the Nexus 5 as well. The 6P offers me: - Aluminum case. - 1080p screen - 4K video recording - Slow-motion video recording @ 1080p 240fps - 12.3MP single shot - A good enough CPU for lag free web browsing, spotify, snapchat, instagram, etc. Why the fuck would I pay $700+ for a new phone for marginal improvements???

Google just dropped support for the Nexus 5X and 6P, for unknown reasons. I hate it. Now I have no options left. (I need a device that will get android developer previews)

I'm so done with Google. This would be like Microsoft ending security updates for Windows 8.1 after only two years.

By the way you can get a custom rom from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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I witnessed my girlfriend's Nexus 6p support experience with Google and it was not pretty. I would never buy a Google phone after that. The phone, just barely out of warranty, goes into a bootloop and becomes a paperweight. Google helpfully shrugs the problem off on Huawei, and Huawei will of course not support the product since it's out of warranty. There is no repair option. I tried Android early on, had similarly…

Been android all my life. Bought almost every phone on the Google store. After the Nexus 6p experience -- I made an oath to my self to never buy another Google phone again. From the onset it was broke. We are talking just a week after I bought, I started noticing a pattern of complaints about the audio clarity. I call support, what do I get? A refurb. Whatever, phone was just released -- probably gonna be a new phone…

I went for no-name Android phones for years now and can't complain.

First I had a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (6") for 2 years, then a Huawei MediaPad X2 (7") for 3 years. Somehow they stopped to build big phones, so I switched to a Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (6.4") and I couldn't be happier.

I paid a fraction of the price of one of those Nexus/iPhone/Samsung flagship Smartphones and they all had what I needed, big display and big battery.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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post #332

Be careful with the unlimited video storage deal because it's not really unlimited video? It's unlimited until 2020[0] and then I'm guessing you'll have to pay for it afterwards, and after a few years of taking videos without caring about space, you're probably going to rack up a massive bill or have to spend a ton of time cherry picking what you want to save. Their plan is pretty smart tho. Most people will be like…

That's insidious if that's the case. I (and probably) many others took it to mean that photos taken through that date would enjoy unlimited storage permanently, not that they would start charging after that date. Would be nice if we could get some clarification.

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I don't agree with that assessment. I've been using Android since 1.0. The default experience is simply just that. No frills. No skins. Just Google apps. What exactly did they pull from HTC or Samsung that is now in the Gapps package? Android comes without Google apps as well. Gapps package installs Gmail, Maps, etc but not much in the way of frills.

I've used maybe 15 Android devices since it's inception. HTC, Samsung, Sony, Motorola, and "Google" (two Nexus devices and 1 Pixel). If I had to choose I would take stock Android in terms of aesthetics, ten times out of ten. However, over time Android has indeed taken MANY features from HTC, Motrola, Samsung and other OEMS and added them to vanilla android. I know I'm forgetting a lot more but off the top of my head:…

Yea... but how much of those features are really from HTC, Samsung, et al and not duplicates of features from iOS or even custom roms from XDA?

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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post #332

Be careful with the unlimited video storage deal because it's not really unlimited video? It's unlimited until 2020[0] and then I'm guessing you'll have to pay for it afterwards, and after a few years of taking videos without caring about space, you're probably going to rack up a massive bill or have to spend a ton of time cherry picking what you want to save. Their plan is pretty smart tho. Most people will be like…

That's insidious if that's the case. I (and probably) many others took it to mean that photos taken through that date would enjoy unlimited storage permanently, not that they would start charging after that date. Would be nice if we could get some clarification.

Parent comment is correct. From footnote #2 from here: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_2

> Free, unlimited original-quality storage for photos and videos taken with Pixel through the end of 2020, and free, unlimited high-quality storage for photos taken with Pixel afterwards.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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When they mentioned the headphone jack being removed, I thought it was a joke. I have a 6S now and was considering getting the Pixel, in part because of the headphone jack and also for the more "open" ecosystem of Android (and things not proprietary-Apple). But now it's basically the same, so there's less motivation for me there. I just think Google could've swooped in and gotten the people who still appreciate headphone jacks.

Interesting round of new devices this year around, I wonder what the consensus is on who did it better, Google or Apple?

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Project Fi's support has been nothing short of spectacular... I've had two slow activations (coming from StraightTalk) and they've spent 10-20 minutes on the phone with me until the problem was resolved.

As an aside, even if I get good customer service, these days I'm frankly tired of not having physical stores. Being able to walk into an Apple Store is a really tempting offer, compared to shipping a phone for repair and communicating through emails.

I'll take advance replacement and phone/chat/email support over waiting in line in a store any day.
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