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I really wish Apple would focus more on getting Xcode up to par. It's in a truly horrid state, both performance and feature-wise. Developing an Objective-C app is worlds ahead of Swift right now.
Are you aware that Xcode 9 just shipped last week and is a major rewrite of much of the IDE? It's one of the largest updates in Xcode's history.
I really wish Swift could find a way to be useful on platforms other than Apple. I'd be willing to commit more to it if I could write truly portable code in it. It's got a good start on Linux, but Windows and Android would be cool too. Though Kotlin won out over Swift for Android (very similar languages but I like Swift a bit better there).
let's say android or windows adopted swift. I don't think that would eliminate the biggest learning curve of dealing with the frameworks. in my experience, learning UIKit stuff was way trickier than swift. I imagine the same experience developing for other OS'.
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So ... any good?
The only that truly annoyed me was that CMD+click doesn't work immediately anymore but conjures some kind of intermediary menu. Haven't figured out if there's a new keystroke for it, but I'm still doing too much work in Xcode 8. To me it was nothing but progress compared to 8 apart from that. Everything faster and better.
I agree on faster and better, but still buggy. Autocomplete still regularly dies for me and requires a restart (of Xcode.)
I really wish Apple would focus more on getting Xcode up to par. It's in a truly horrid state, both performance and feature-wise. Developing an Objective-C app is worlds ahead of Swift right now.
Are you aware that Xcode 9 just shipped last week and is a major rewrite of much of the IDE? It's one of the largest updates in Xcode's history.
I really wish Swift could find a way to be useful on platforms other than Apple. I'd be willing to commit more to it if I could write truly portable code in it. It's got a good start on Linux, but Windows and Android would be cool too. Though Kotlin won out over Swift for Android (very similar languages but I like Swift a bit better there).
For the time being swift on Linux is a case of a few PaaS vendors trying to product differentiate by also offering swift frameworks because they can(due to modern container wrangling) more then due to any real market demand.
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So ... any good?
The only that truly annoyed me was that CMD+click doesn't work immediately anymore but conjures some kind of intermediary menu. Haven't figured out if there's a new keystroke for it, but I'm still doing too much work in Xcode 8. To me it was nothing but progress compared to 8 apart from that. Everything faster and better.
I really wish Swift could find a way to be useful on platforms other than Apple. I'd be willing to commit more to it if I could write truly portable code in it. It's got a good start on Linux, but Windows and Android would be cool too. Though Kotlin won out over Swift for Android (very similar languages but I like Swift a bit better there).
let's say android or windows adopted swift. I don't think that would eliminate the biggest learning curve of dealing with the frameworks. in my experience, learning UIKit stuff was way trickier than swift. I imagine the same experience developing for other OS'.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you aware that Xcode 9 just shipped last week and is a major rewrite of much of the IDE? It's one of the largest updates in Xcode's history.
So ... any good?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only that truly annoyed me was that CMD+click doesn't work immediately anymore but conjures some kind of intermediary menu. Haven't figured out if there's a new keystroke for it, but I'm still doing too much work in Xcode 8. To me it was nothing but progress compared to 8 apart from that. Everything faster and better.
There is a checkbox in Xcode preferences to change it back. Not sure where as I’m on mobile, but that annoyed me to no end till I found the option. I agree on faster and better, but still buggy. Autocomplete still regularly dies for me and requires a restart (of Xcode.)
Earlier quoted context omitted.
let's say android or windows adopted swift. I don't think that would eliminate the biggest learning curve of dealing with the frameworks. in my experience, learning UIKit stuff was way trickier than swift. I imagine the same experience developing for other OS'.
I dunno how true that is, Rust has fantastic support across Windows and Android but leaves UI framework up to the platform.