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Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by Akujin » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:30 PM UTC

I currently have a Nexus 6P. It was the flagship before the Pixel series. I use Bluetooth headphones daily on my commute using the Philly subway system (SEPTA). In center city and around suburban station I experience sound cutting in and out all the time on two different wireless bluetooth headphones. It seems to work just fine in my apartment when I don't need it but is never reliable when there's a ton of other signals around.

I can't stand the current state of the industry. New phones cost more but offer little in terms of value. They also look like trash. Who actually thought it was a good idea to make a flag ship phone have a two tone plastic case?

I'll be sticking to my aluminum cased 6P for a while. I'm also likely to get it again when this one finally dies. There's absolutely nothing that makes me want a Samsung or a Google branded Android phone right now.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by vthallam » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:31 PM UTC

Looks great for $849. The camera is amazing with a 98 Dxo score. Also, the free unlimited Photo and Video storage is a great deal.

Only conern is the inventory, they make 100 pieces and do marketing for a million, I don't understand the logic, smh.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by deep_concern » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:31 PM UTC

The only reason to remove the headphone jack is to sell more dongles and wireless headphones. That's it.

Consumers are not asking for it for the aesthetics. It doesn't make the phone much thinner. It doesn't make the phone easier to manufacture.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by rmwaite » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:32 PM UTC

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

man. you're in the audio industry. most people are not. I'm talking the VAST majority of people. So they should cater to you? I think it is not unreasonable to expect the professional to have whatever equipment they need - there are aux adapters for USB C and lightning. They are small. They are inexpensive.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by notatoad » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:32 PM UTC

$649/$849

it looks like a nice phone, but i have a hard time understanding how it's 5-7x better than my xiaomi.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by mattnewton » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:33 PM UTC

earlybike wrote: post #2

Guess it’s for many a minor thing but why can’t the phone just be symmetric (top and bottom bezel have the same height)?

The top of the phone’s bezel contains a camera, and the bottom doesn’t. Why do you want a larger chin with wasted space? The pixel 1’s chin always bothered me for that reason.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by NikolaeVarius » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:34 PM UTC

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

I'm not against removing the Aux port on principal or anything, but I just don't understand why we're going toward removing seemingly core hardware.

Even on desktops/laptops 3.5mm audio is still used. Why do we need dongles to use core features?

Especially since we're removing an "out" port, now we're reliant on a single port to manage all in and out. I don't want to carry dongles to be able to use my phone normally.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by wnevets » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:34 PM UTC

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

>If my 1st generation Pixel were to break today, I'd buy another 1st generation Pixel.

Yup, no way I'm buying new a car just to listen to music while driving.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by limeblack » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:35 PM UTC

adewinter wrote: post #16

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

If you work in 'the industry', surely it would not be a big deal to carry around an adapter a long with the other standard tools of your trade? I imagine it'll be about as inconvenient as carrying around ear buds.

Having used the adapters they often break very easily and look like a complete mess. I have been through several on my iPhone.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by stephengillie » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:35 PM UTC

deep_concern wrote: post #23

The only reason to remove the headphone jack is to sell more dongles and wireless headphones. That's it. Consumers are not asking for it for the aesthetics. It doesn't make the phone much thinner. It doesn't make the phone easier to manufacture.

After finding cheap Bluetooth headsets on Amazon last about as long as a pair of earbuds, and have no cord, I don't see a problem.

I'm very rough on physical devices, and will go through 4-6 pair of earbuds a year. Because these do not physically connect to the device, they take an order of magnitude less wear, and thus last longer.