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Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by Kevin_S » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:25 PM UTC

Seems pretty nice.

I may consider the Pixel 2 XL over the IPhone X in a few months, but will definitely need to see some reviews of both first.

The removal of the headphone jack is devastating. I listen to music nearly every waking moment, so I am unsure about moving to Bluetooth whenever I use headphones.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by gambiting » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:26 PM UTC

legohead wrote: post #4

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

I love my Pixel, but they just lost me as a customer for this reason. I'm not totally against removing the headphone jack, but it's not time yet -- the transition has been done poorly.

Yep, after being really impressed with the Pixel I knew Pixel 2 was going to be my next phone. Not anymore. Lack of the headphone jack is an absolute no-go for me.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by wpietri » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:26 PM UTC

legohead wrote: post #4

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

I love my Pixel, but they just lost me as a customer for this reason. I'm not totally against removing the headphone jack, but it's not time yet -- the transition has been done poorly.

Same. I have a variety of different things that use the headphone jack. A good pair of headphones, a couple of pairs of sound-isolating earbuds, a couple of pairs of open-ear headphones for running and walking. Because those are cheap, I can always keep a set where I need them. If I lose them or give them away, NBD.

Taking away the headphone jack does not solve any problem I have. It would impose extra costs, both in conversion, and ongoing. And it gives me a worse experience overall.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by post_break » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:27 PM UTC

It looks great, I hope Google can keep up the shipments. I really like the white and black XL, and the orange button really reminds me of Dieter Rams calculator from Braun.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by mcjiggerlog » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:27 PM UTC

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

I wonder how many customers they will lose because of this decision? What I don't actually understand is what exactly is gained by its removal? It doesn't seem to be a limiting factor in either thinness or waterproofing, which are the only two I can think of.

I know I for one will never buy a phone with no headphone jack.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by adewinter » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:28 PM UTC

codq wrote: post #3

As an audio engineer, the headphone jack removal trend is an absolute travesty in an industry that utilizes AUX IN audio capabilities night after night. I'm often using iPods or other local-music devices to pump sound into concert venues between acts. Taking away 1/8" audio standards in favor of USB-C or Lightning non-standardized ports causes chaos when needing to fill in music in a pinch. In my industry, I simply c…

If you work in 'the industry', surely it would not be a big deal to carry around an adapter a long with the other standard tools of your trade? I imagine it'll be about as inconvenient as carrying around ear buds.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by limeblack » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:28 PM UTC

Does anyone know how consistent the squeeze feature is on phones that have already implemented such?

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by mastax » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:28 PM UTC

An LG G6 for $350 more†.

+ Software updates

+ Camera software (probably)

+ Squeezing

- Dual camera

Did I miss anything?

†Yes it's unfair to compare speculated launch price to current store price but that's the decision I'm making right now.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by seltzered_ » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:29 PM UTC

Motion photos - if I'm understanding correctly this is basically "motion stills"[1] integrated into the main camera app. It takes three seconds of video, but no photo with it like in live photos.

[1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by TaylorAlexander » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 5:30 PM UTC

Lon7 wrote: post #9

I really really hope they have fixed their supply issues this time around. I live in the 4th largest city in North America and I was unable to get a Pixel within a reasonable amount of time.

Same. I waited for weeks for the Pixel to be in stock last year. I finally bought an iPhone 7 Plus after being all android since the T-Mobile G1. I love it, and it shipped in like 24 hours! I was blown away that google couldn’t provide a phone to those that wanted it. (Note: I wanted to max out storage and I wanted the XL. There was stock on models with the least storage.)

I really hope they can keep these in stock.