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Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by oneweekwonder »

throwaway613834 wrote: post #198

Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone know what top-level domains are in practice "safe" to use for email addresses if we're going to migrate to our own domain? I mean "safe" in the sense of being unlikely to cause confusion or problems with less-than-well-written software (or humans). Obviously .com is okay, and I haven't heard of problems with .edu/.gov/.org/.net, but I'm a little afraid of getting a domain for email…

> I'm not sure if I'm just being paranoid about this though. Any suggestions on what's considered safe?

Maybe a bit, I don't think it is based in paranoia, you have technical reasons. Just recently had to strip tld from uri's, and boy was that harder then excepted!

That being said domains like co.uk, co.jp been around for a long time. I will stay away from "fancy .named" domains, but country level names should work fine.

Would love to hear other opinions as well.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by throwaway613834 »

chrisper wrote: post #200
throwaway613834 wrote: post #198

Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone know what top-level domains are in practice "safe" to use for email addresses if we're going to migrate to our own domain? I mean "safe" in the sense of being unlikely to cause confusion or problems with less-than-well-written software (or humans). Obviously .com is okay, and I haven't heard of problems with .edu/.gov/.org/.net, but I'm a little afraid of getting a domain for email…

Don't bother with any of the custom ones if you don't want to end up in spam at most companies. I went with .org and had no issues sofar.

Oh, good point! Do .info, .name, .me, .io, etc. also cause problems like custom ones? Or do you just mean the newer ones like .services and .online and whatnot?

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by throwaway613834 »

oneweekwonder wrote: post #201
throwaway613834 wrote: post #198

Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone know what top-level domains are in practice "safe" to use for email addresses if we're going to migrate to our own domain? I mean "safe" in the sense of being unlikely to cause confusion or problems with less-than-well-written software (or humans). Obviously .com is okay, and I haven't heard of problems with .edu/.gov/.org/.net, but I'm a little afraid of getting a domain for email…

> I'm not sure if I'm just being paranoid about this though. Any suggestions on what's considered safe? Maybe a bit, I don't think it is based in paranoia, you have technical reasons. Just recently had to strip tld from uri's, and boy was that harder then excepted! That being said domains like co.uk, co.jp been around for a long time. I will stay away from "fancy .named" domains, but country level names should work f…

Good point about ones like .co.uk! Hadn't thought about that.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by robertlagrant »

soared wrote: post #169
manigandham wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still show the ads and there are a lot of other signals and context to use. Also other than Facebook or google with strong identity, 3rd party data on the open web is next to useless. If you’re paying $40cpm for data, you’re getting ripped off.

Sorry to be that guy, but: I spend over $5m a year on rtb ads. I literally spend 50 hours a week doing this. If the money I spend doesn't produce verifiable results, I lose it. For example, that 40cpm is to reach a pool of <1000 users who are in charge of purchasing for networks of hospitals, and my ads are for MRI machines. 3rd party data is unbelievably valuable, probably $1.5 million of my budget goes to data cost…

Might be better off spending £5k+ on personal gifts for each decision maker than bothering with Web advertising if it's that few people you're targeting :-)

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by chrisper »

throwaway613834 wrote: post #202
chrisper wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't bother with any of the custom ones if you don't want to end up in spam at most companies. I went with .org and had no issues sofar.

Oh, good point! Do .info, .name, .me, .io, etc. also cause problems like custom ones? Or do you just mean the newer ones like .services and .online and whatnot?

Kind of both. The world of emails works in mystical ways! It really depends on the admin. He or she might very well block .me etc. since no serious company is going to have a .me email.

A lot of admins do block something like .services.

Your best bet is to go with a tld that is also commonly used by companies.

Also, if this is important to you, you need to check if whois privacy is supported for a specific tld.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by ben_w »

robertlagrant wrote: post #204
soared wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to be that guy, but: I spend over $5m a year on rtb ads. I literally spend 50 hours a week doing this. If the money I spend doesn't produce verifiable results, I lose it. For example, that 40cpm is to reach a pool of <1000 users who are in charge of purchasing for networks of hospitals, and my ads are for MRI machines. 3rd party data is unbelievably valuable, probably $1.5 million of my budget goes to data cost…

Might be better off spending £5k+ on personal gifts for each decision maker than bothering with Web advertising if it's that few people you're targeting :-)

I may not be a lawyer, but gifts of $5k to induce someone to purchase a thing for their workplace feels like it should count as corruption and bribery.

If someone tried to do that to me, I’d report the attempt to the company lawyer, and I’d doubt the quality of the thing they were selling was as good as the quality of the thing the other poster was advertising.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by snowpanda »

michel-slm wrote: post #112
basch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://outline.com/http://www.wsj.com/articles/yahoo-triple...

better than the Facebook trick! Thanks

There's also this for my Firefox friends:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bypasspaywall...

It does a whole range of sites.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Post by erik_seaberg »

soared wrote: post #169
manigandham wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still show the ads and there are a lot of other signals and context to use. Also other than Facebook or google with strong identity, 3rd party data on the open web is next to useless. If you’re paying $40cpm for data, you’re getting ripped off.

Sorry to be that guy, but: I spend over $5m a year on rtb ads. I literally spend 50 hours a week doing this. If the money I spend doesn't produce verifiable results, I lose it. For example, that 40cpm is to reach a pool of <1000 users who are in charge of purchasing for networks of hospitals, and my ads are for MRI machines. 3rd party data is unbelievably valuable, probably $1.5 million of my budget goes to data cost…

They're swayed by ads? I'm surprised they don't need to do a formal RFP among the handful of companies who can make an MRI certified for medical use.
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