Say no to Electron: use JavaFX to write a fast, responsive desktop app

Post by smaddox » Tue, Oct 03, 2017, 7:15 PM UTC

ch4s3 wrote: post #17

smaddox wrote: post #6

As much as I dislike the inherent complexity of Electron, VSCode and Discord are existence proofs that it can be used effectively. VSCode is far faster than any other IDE I've used, and even beats VIM in terminal in terms of responsiveness (altough I suspect this is not VIM's fault). Discord is overall a great application, and quite responsive. Both are slightly bloated in terms of memory, from what I supect they cou…

>But not nearly as bloated as many of the competing Java and C++ applications. I too like discord and VSCode, but VSCode uses far more resources than sublime, with the tradeoff being that it's more easily extensible and has a faster release cycle(which may or may not be related to team size). VIM locally is obviously also going to be much faster and capable of opening far larger files than VSCode.

Post by smaddox » Tue, Oct 03, 2017, 7:18 PM UTC

yorwba wrote: post #47

smaddox wrote: post #6

As much as I dislike the inherent complexity of Electron, VSCode and Discord are existence proofs that it can be used effectively. VSCode is far faster than any other IDE I've used, and even beats VIM in terminal in terms of responsiveness (altough I suspect this is not VIM's fault). Discord is overall a great application, and quite responsive. Both are slightly bloated in terms of memory, from what I supect they cou…

One thing that can make vim in a terminal feel slow is related to the escape character doing double duty to signal extra information to terminal applications (e.g. arrow keys or window size) on the same channel as regular input. To catch a single press of the escape key, vim needs to wait a little bit to make sure it's not the start of an escape sequence. Sometimes that delay is configured too generous and becomes no…

Post by ch4s3 » Tue, Oct 03, 2017, 9:21 PM UTC

smaddox wrote: post #121

ch4s3 wrote: post #17

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>But not nearly as bloated as many of the competing Java and C++ applications. I too like discord and VSCode, but VSCode uses far more resources than sublime, with the tradeoff being that it's more easily extensible and has a faster release cycle(which may or may not be related to team size). VIM locally is obviously also going to be much faster and capable of opening far larger files than VSCode.

I haven't tried using sublime as a full IDE, so I'm not comparing against sublime.

Post by vikingcaffiene » Tue, Oct 03, 2017, 11:25 PM UTC

wieghant wrote: post #106

rootlocus wrote: post #67

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> JS is weird yes. JS has problems yes. But the author is promoting friggin JAVA as the alternative? As a language, I find java is much better designed than Java Script.

As a language both are insane in parts. Not just architecture but the muddle of tooling also.

Post by scrollaway » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 2:00 AM UTC

boondaburrah wrote: post #82

stouset wrote: post #74

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IntelliJ faster than VS Code? I don’t think anyone who’s used both products could make such a claim with a straight face. I joke with my coworkers that I know they’ve fired up IDEA because I can hear it. Whenever it’s on, their fans are dialed up to full blast.

I'm gonna make such a claim with a straight face. I don't know if it's VSCode's vim emulation or what, but on every platform I've tried it on IntelliJ beats it, while VSCode is busy catching up to where my cursor is still after chaining like 2 vim commands.