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Re: Facebook Lies

#152
post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

I removed everything from my account about 6 or so years ago, and instead of deleting it just stopped logging in completely. So far not a single E-mail from them. I'm afraid to log back in even if to simply delete the account, because I don't want to "tickle the tiger" and suddenly start being treated as a user...

Same for Twitter. I signed up once a long, long time ago, and maybe tweeted once and never logged in again. Occasionally I get E-mails from them about people (bots?) who "follow" me despite my inactivity. It's likely because my twitter handle is pretty short and an actual name, so probably some people get confused and follow the wrong person.

Re: Facebook Lies

#153

I am in this Kafka-esque situation where I try to get an account deleted that is not even mine. I don't have and want a Facebook account, but Facebook does not agree. I few years back I started receiving mail for an account that I never created. The name is not close to mine, but a silly sexual pun. I have mailed security and account support multiple times, asking for the account to be deleted, or decoupled from my e…

I have the same thing, but with PayPal. My full namesake has created another account, and used my email there - so I guess he is not getting any notifications. I am afraid to contact PayPal support, since they might just go ahead and block the wrong account, or both of them, so I just ignore these emails from parallel universe.

I was able to shut down a couple of Instagram accounts that were using my email though. Instagram does not verify emails, but fully trusts them to reset your password.

Re: Facebook Lies

#154

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I think it's important to make a couple of distinctions here. 1. Facebook collects on you when you interact with their systems 2. You can purposefully interact with facebook systems by requesting content from a Facebook registered IP (eg, FB.com, whatsapp, IG, Messenger, comment widget etc...) 3. You can passively interact with facebook systems by accessing a website that posts metadata/telemetry to a Facebook regist…

My account is deactivated now, but once upon a time I was an active FB user. I did not tell Facebook my birthday. However, friends who knew me would still post Happy Birthday messages on my birthday, and FB would auto-populate my birthday as a result. So I would go in every year and delete my birthday again. Then they stopped allowing me to clear it out. Since people--without prompting--had wished me a happy birthday…

I had a fake name on my account, but all of my real life friends knew what my name on Facebook was. I liked this system as it allowed me to connect with my friends without worrying too much about my name and data being out there.

Eventually Facebook said I had an invalid name and needed to change it. So I tried changing it to another fake name, which was rejected. I tried several more, including perfectly normal names and all were rejected. Not even abbreviations were accepted, it had to be my full exact name. Facebook knew what my real name was.

Later I realized that there was a feature asking you to type in the name of your friends based on their profile picture as a security measure (perhaps for account recovery?) anyway I suspect this one way they may have flagged my account. If friends recovering their account typed in my real name enough times, but got all the other names correct they might flag my account.

Re: Facebook Lies

#155
post #53

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> And besides, they take nothing that you don't give them. This isn't true, at all. Facebook collects plenty of data that users and non-users don't directly give them.

I think it's important to make a couple of distinctions here. 1. Facebook collects on you when you interact with their systems 2. You can purposefully interact with facebook systems by requesting content from a Facebook registered IP (eg, FB.com, whatsapp, IG, Messenger, comment widget etc...) 3. You can passively interact with facebook systems by accessing a website that posts metadata/telemetry to a Facebook regist…

> Facebook collects on you when you interact with their systems

I do not think this is true. What happens with my e-mail address when someone else signs up to Facebook and shares their contact list (with my e-mail address in it)?

How did Facebook know who my friends are the very moment I signed in, without sharing my address list?

They already have collected information on my social graph, without my own explicit permission, but with implicit permission from less tech-savy friends.

And that's nothing to say about people tagging me in Facebook pictures to train their giant DeepFace algorithm.

In both scenario's I am not accessing or interacting with a Facebook system, while my information is still being abused.

Re: Facebook Lies

#156

I'm not trying to defend Facebook, but I used the 14-day deletion and it worked for me. Just saying that there must be more to this story than just "I did it and Facebook lied to me".

It's likely that at the time they deleted their account (unspecified "long ago"), Facebook either did not have a guarantee of deletion of all data, or this person did not follow the process that would delete all data and are misremembering how they deleted their account.

They are simply looking at the current documentation and thinking "oh yeah, I must have done that, and these guarantees were supposed to apply", when of course that isn't true if those guarantees are new, or if they never followed that procedure in the first place.

Re: Facebook Lies

#157
I'll have to try this. One of my biggest regrets was deleting my Facebook account sophomore year of college when I moved schools. A lot of pictures and memories erased. I moved away so a huge part of my connection with my old life was gone. It would be amazing to get them back.

Re: Facebook Lies

#158

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That applies to spam from an unknown sender, not a bona fide company you have a relationship with. Messages from Facebook about your account are hardly unsolicited. I don't think it's useful to call every email you don't like "spam".

If the user didn't opt in to a notification, then by definition, it is unsolicited.

He probably has opted in without noticing. Quick show of hands: How reads all ToS that they agree to?

Re: Facebook Lies

#159
post #118

I've been locked out of my facebook account for almost a year because they didn't believe I legally changed my name to "Captain Hook Pope Mobile". I sent my revised birth certificate, drivers license, everything. No response on the support ticket for 8 whole months...

Wait a second. Don't tell me that you're actually the Captain Hook Pope Mobile

Could there ever be more than one?

Re: Facebook Lies

#160
post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

This is such a weird thing to think. You can turn off all notifications and they'll never contact you, ever. I stopped using Facebook 6 years ago and haven't gotten a single email / sms from them since then, because I used the settings properly. Yeah, if you just ghost them and never click "update your email settings" at the bottom of every email they send, they'll keep sending them.

Facebook "tricked" me into getting texts for 2fa, now texts me at weird times with crap like: your friends posted 84 updates since last week (why would I care).

I never asked FB to send me any texts other than for 2fa and this is pushy and unwelcome.

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