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Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers

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Re: Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers

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Post by EpicEng »

nickjj wrote: post #6
magic_beans wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the very least, nicotine-free e-cigarettes allow people addicted to cigarettes to maintain the habit of smoking -- going outside, taking the mental break associated with cigarettes -- but without the damage of actual smoke or nicotine.

You can do this without smoking anything too. I smoked a pack a day for over 10 years and quit cold turkey without any patches or vaping. The mental break thing is definitely real. I highly recommend just going outside. Maybe do a couple of laps around the block.

"I did it, it should work for everyone!"

We have decades of data showing that isn't the case.

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Post by Lewton »

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #7
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read either article? The CNN one you link to was a study that compared cold turkey vs gradually scaling down. > "Researchers looked at nearly 700 long-term heavy smokers in England who wanted to kick the habit. They instructed half of the participants to quit abruptly -- that is, pick a quit day when they would give up smoking entirely. The other half were told to scale back their cigarettes gradually for two…

Did read both articles. Not an expert by any means on smoking, but often e-cigarettes are also a way to quit by scaling back the nicotine content in the cartridge.

Nicotine is not the only addictive drug in cigarettes

It is in ecigs

Re: Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers

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Post by heelhook »

dsschnau wrote: post #5

vaping definitely isn't healthy but it doesn't take much time vaping to determine that it's less bad for you than smoking. i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

Genuinely curious; what's keeping you from quitting altogether? Is quitting a priority for you?

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Post by daxorid »

dsschnau wrote: post #5

vaping definitely isn't healthy but it doesn't take much time vaping to determine that it's less bad for you than smoking. i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

Nicotine, by itself, and in small doses, is actually good for you: https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine

Re: Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers

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Post by matthewmacleod »

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #2

"Cold turkey is best way to quit smoking, study says" http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/15/health/quit-smoking-cold-t... Not convinced switching people to a just as addicting, just as nasty way of killing themselves slowly is any better.

Not convinced switching people to a just as addicting, just as nasty way of killing themselves slowly is any better.

More research is required on long-term effects, but e-cigarettes, regardless of whatever other problems they may have, are likely far less damaging to users than continuing to smoke cigarettes.

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Post by Xophmeister »

heelhook wrote: post #13
dsschnau wrote: post #5

vaping definitely isn't healthy but it doesn't take much time vaping to determine that it's less bad for you than smoking. i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

Genuinely curious; what's keeping you from quitting altogether? Is quitting a priority for you?

> 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

Looks like he's doing pretty well. Nicotine is extremely addictive. One does not just quit smoking.

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Post by melq »

dsschnau wrote: post #5

vaping definitely isn't healthy but it doesn't take much time vaping to determine that it's less bad for you than smoking. i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

Is vaping unhealthy because nicotine is inherently unhealthy or are there other harms associated with vaping itself? Need to quit smoking cigarettes myself.

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Post by gnaritas »

dsschnau wrote: post #5

vaping definitely isn't healthy but it doesn't take much time vaping to determine that it's less bad for you than smoking. i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

> vaping definitely isn't healthy

That's a bold statement, how exactly is vaping definitely not healthy?

Re: Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers

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Post by Ascetik »

I use nasal snuff, the least damaging and least intrusive form of tobacco use.

I vaped pretty hardcore for 3 or 4 years, it definitely has an effect on your lungs, especially if you're into dual-coil sub-ohm builds and all that jazz.

Nasal snuff has been a God-send and is much more enjoyable, at least to me. I still smoke a nice briar pipe with a few different pipe tobacco blends on occasion, but nasal snuff has definitely curbed my tobacco/nicotine usage.

I could never go back to cigarettes and dip is just kind of gross, although I think it's better than cigarettes.

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Post by excalibur »

melq wrote: post #17
dsschnau wrote: post #5

vaping definitely isn't healthy but it doesn't take much time vaping to determine that it's less bad for you than smoking. i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.

Is vaping unhealthy because nicotine is inherently unhealthy or are there other harms associated with vaping itself? Need to quit smoking cigarettes myself.

Both. Even vaping 0mg nicotine is bad for you, but not nearly as bad as smoking.
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