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Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by dublinben »

IshKebab wrote: post #25
trishmapow2 wrote: post #19

https://haveibeenpwned.com Make sure that you don't have any insecure accounts or reuse passwords that have been exposed through breaches.

Really annoyingly though they don't provide the hashes. I'd really like to know which passwords have been leaked. Does anyone know of a similar site that provides hashes? I don't need the complete list - just the hashes for my email.

What you're asking for is basically the full details of the data breach, which can be directly used to compromise accounts. You're not going to get that for free anywhere.

You can check your own passwords (hashes recommended) through their new Password service.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

Re: Facebook Lies

#32

Post by chirau »

The closest thing you can do to deleting your account is actually manually deleting all your posts and albums first... the using their so called delete/deactivate option.

Re: Facebook Lies

#33

Post by dnel »

bmelton wrote: post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

I deactivated first for about 6 months, didn't get any communication from them. Eventually I went to delete and used a link from deletefacebook.com taking me straight to the right page. Maybe it was because I was on mobile but there wasn't any emotional blackmail begging me to stay and it was done. I was expecting much worse but the experience was quite smooth for me and I'm happily free of Facebook for good now.

Re: Facebook Lies

#34

Post by AckSyn »

adtac wrote: post #22
gberger wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is "European customer" defined? If someone is not European but resides in Europe, do they have this right? If someone not from Europe travels to Europe and issues the request while inside Europe, do they have this right? (If so, would using a VPN work?)

If that's actually the case, I can see a Deletion-as-a-service business. "We thoroughly delete your account for you." The fact that I have to come up such mechanisms is a damning indictment of the way things are.

There used to be a service like this for facebook and twitter, then those two services blocked them from doing so.

Which was sad, but it ultimately worked well for everyone who ended up using it before the ban. It would untag you from photos, delete your comments, wall posts, photos, information, change your name, and issue a deletion after changing your password (and emailing that to you).

Re: Facebook Lies

#35

Post by ape4 »

What if you fill your Facebook profile with bogus info? Like writing random bytes on a drive to wipe it.

Re: Facebook Lies

#36

Post by bmelton »

yeukhon wrote: post #29
bmelton wrote: post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

I don’t see why that isn’t expected. Next time try deactivate it instead of uninstall the app, then there is an option to opt out communication. In your account settings, you can also opt out. I have not received a single email from facebook since then (although I am back on it again).

I did not expect them to ramp up the amount of notification spam 100-fold as I engage with the service less.

I've no intention of logging back in to check my notification settings, but when I was using Facebook, I would get a push notification maybe once or twice every couple of days. Now, I get more than a dozen SMS messages a day.

I've built notification systems in the past, and in every instance, respecting the fact that abusing the notification power entrusted to us by our customers was seen as a cardinal sin. Maybe it's the absence of that respect that has catapulted Facebook to where it is, or the presence of it that's held me back in my own endeavors, I don't know, but man, as the recipient of all this spam, it really, really feels unsavory, and further evaporates whatever trust I might have had in the platform.

Re: Facebook Lies

#37

Post by eesmith »

gberger wrote: post #14
nathantotten wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least for European customers. This won’t help everyone.

How is "European customer" defined? If someone is not European but resides in Europe, do they have this right? If someone not from Europe travels to Europe and issues the request while inside Europe, do they have this right? (If so, would using a VPN work?)

GDPR = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula...

> a regulation by which the European Parliament, the Council of the European Union and the European Commission intend to strengthen and unify data protection for all individuals within the European Union (EU). It also addresses the export of personal data outside the EU. The GDPR aims primarily to give control back to citizens and residents over their personal data and to simplify the regulatory environment for international business by unifying the regulation within the EU.

Emphasis mine.

Full text at http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:320... .

> The protection afforded by this Regulation should apply to natural persons, whatever their nationality or place of residence, in relation to the processing of their personal data. This Regulation does not cover the processing of personal data which concerns legal persons and in particular undertakings established as legal persons, including the name and the form of the legal person and the contact details of the legal person.

The specific clause concerning customers appears to be:

> In order to determine whether such a controller or processor is offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union, it should be ascertained whether it is apparent that the controller or processor envisages offering services to data subjects in one or more Member States in the Union. Whereas the mere accessibility of the controller's, processor's or an intermediary's website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, or the use of a language generally used in the third country where the controller is established, is insufficient to ascertain such intention, factors such as the use of a language or a currency generally used in one or more Member States with the possibility of ordering goods and services in that other language, or the mentioning of customers or users who are in the Union, may make it apparent that the controller envisages offering goods or services to data subjects in the Union.

Regarding non-resident visitors, I can't tell. The directive says "whatever their ... place of residence" so almost certainly yes. It also contains text like "data subjects residing on its territory" so you might have problems lodging a complaint if you aren't a resident.

Re: Facebook Lies

#38

Post by chiefalchemist »

No immediate deletion makes sense in that it would encourage hacking. But if they say 2 weeks it should be that.

However, as someone else mentioned, the reality is you don't have a FB account, FB has an account on you.

Re: Facebook Lies

#39

Post by geomark »

bmelton wrote: post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

It's so humorous. I never managed to activate my Facebook account (lucky me). Some "database error", or so it says. So I have never actually even logged in. But they do have an email address I used when I tried to create an account and it gets multiple emails per week with friend recommendations. They all get routed to my spam folder.
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