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Re: iMac Pro

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To all the people banging on about upgrades... exactly what in the name of silica are you working on that this machine can not possibly handle for the next 5 years? What could you possibly want to upgrade? And what are you currently running?

If you're working on the cutting edge, let's say in graphics or machine learning you'll probably want to upgrade your GPU every year.

Which is where macOS' new support for eGPU enclosures comes into play.

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This is an impressive feat of engineering to get all that hardware into a that kind of a package, but man, I bet there are a lot of pros who'd have preferred an aluminum box that they could open up. No fixability / no upgradability is the price we pay for laptops, but does it really have to be the price for desktops? I'd think that swapping a video card or adding a drive or two is the sort of thing that one might do…

You "can" swap out parts and repair iMacs, it is just not something one does casually. You need tools, instructions, skills and will-power. The thing is most people, even pros, don't bother with that stuff even when they have Dell boxes. Apple knows that and, I think, trades off ease-of-repair for sleekness and mostly wins out (until recently). AFAIK, there is no "screen mode" that enables one to use these things as…

The iMac is actually stupidly easy to open, I had to replace a fan on one recently - got the fan on ebay for very cheap, then used a plastic guitar pick to get the glass off the screen(it's held by magnets so you need to wedge something between the glass and the case to separate them) - then used a normal screwdriver to release the 8 or so screws holding the display itself and voila, the whole thing was open and easy to work with. It looks scary but actually it was super easy to repair.

Re: iMac Pro

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Amateur extreme. Pro's need a machine that can evolve over time. More memory, larger storage as it becomes available, God forbid - a faster cpu. Remember the PC platform is inherently upgradeable. The LGA2066 chipset can be used with 8+ different CPU's. Pro's invest in proper tools to support their work, not in souped up toys. Without offense meant to my Honda bretheren, this in the same line as the $100,000 Civic mods. You certainly can, and it will be cool, but possibly not the best use of that money.

Its attractive because of the top end features. But they come in trapped in a disposable package. While that would not be terrible for $300 laptop, it is a piss-poor investment for what 9to5mac says will be a $17,500 top of the line box. Why? The instant one of the features is offspec,too little, to slow , you have an entire $17,000 machine that's too little, too slow.

And no mic input? Why? That's just silly. It cost them more to leave that out.

It belongs with Pro-Racecars, with prepacked engines and hoods welded shut, and with Pro-Lawn tools with no serviceable parts.

Re: iMac Pro

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Is there something new here? (I ask because it was announced months ago and isn’t due out for a few more months.) Looks great though. It’s a little overpowered for the stuff I do, where the demanding things are distributed systems which don’t make sense to host on a workstation, even in simulation. But I sure wouldn’t mind one.

I'm a programmer and so buy middle of the line macbook pros with mid range CPUs, mid range RAM, and integrated GPUS. Ironically, my wife, a designer, always chastises me for getting such slow hardware: turns out what works for a programmer doesn't work for soemone who has to use a lot of Adobe CSS :). I assume this iMac pro would be for her, not for me.

Is a fully specceed Macbook Pro / iMac really not enough for her? This thing looks way too overpowered

Re: iMac Pro

#105

Maybe for graphics professionals who don’t like Windows and can’t get the software they need on Linux. Otherwise, especially for devs, it would just make so much more sense to build a PC for the upgradability if nothing else. Being able to drop in a new card or CPU as desired is a pretty big perk, although I find it somewhat strange to be describing it that way, as it used to be a given.

You can also build tiny (compared to the PCs 5-10 years ago) powerhouses thanks to the rise of enthusiast mini ITX boards and SFX power supplies. My new tower is small enough to fit in a backpack, but it can fit a full size reference video card, 4 2.5” drives, and the motherboard has two M.2 slots.

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Seeing the history of updates to the Mac Mini and Mac Pro why would anyone trust Apple with a high end desktop computer? The odds are high that they'll keep pumping this thing largely unchanged for the next 5 years while letting the state of technology race ahead. I'm saying this because no matter what Apple say, their focus is undoubtedly on what makes them the most money: iPhones.

Yeah but today it’s awesome. In five years they will have something else even more awesome. I think the problem is they still sell something that was considered awesome from five years ago.

Still waiting on a "more awesome" mac mini. Going on 1805 days (4.95 years) since they killed off the 4 core version.

Re: iMac Pro

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You "can" swap out parts and repair iMacs, it is just not something one does casually. You need tools, instructions, skills and will-power. The thing is most people, even pros, don't bother with that stuff even when they have Dell boxes. Apple knows that and, I think, trades off ease-of-repair for sleekness and mostly wins out (until recently). AFAIK, there is no "screen mode" that enables one to use these things as…

The iMac is actually stupidly easy to open, I had to replace a fan on one recently - got the fan on ebay for very cheap, then used a plastic guitar pick to get the glass off the screen(it's held by magnets so you need to wedge something between the glass and the case to separate them) - then used a normal screwdriver to release the 8 or so screws holding the display itself and voila, the whole thing was open and easy…

It used to be sensibly designed and just need a screwdriver, but look at the latest iFixit teardown. You have to pizza-slice through screen adhesive to crack it open now, and have a replacement custom cut seal to pack it back together. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+21.5-Inch+Retina+...

Re: iMac Pro

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Linux is getting better as a desktop OS. I hope that continues so Apple gets some competition - Marketing an all-in-one as a Pro machine is just arrogant, I don't care whats under the hood the form factor is wrong.

I have been using mint 18 with cinnamon 3 and its a nice GUI and rock solid stable. It runs my dev env but also 24/7 servers and a few daemons. I just added some more ram for cheap (up to 24GB ) to run more docker containers.

Its hard to see how I could mirror this on OSX without spending a small fortune. I also own a macbook pro but due to donglegate its mostly for browsing the internet and light tasks (which i guess is what most apple products are designed for these days)

Re: iMac Pro

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Realy have they finally replaced finder with something as usable as filemanger in windows 3.1

What do you have against finder?

its hard to work with and it hasn't changed in essence from the pre OSX Mac Operating systems
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