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Re: iMac Pro

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Post by giancarlostoro »

stefco_ wrote: post #46
coldtea wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done... Or you can go and get either a warranty extension (before it runs out) or an aftermarket SSD, like millions (including me) have done.

But you can't do that with the latest MacBooks, which have their SSDs soldered directly onto the logic boards. And you can't do that with memory for any Apple notebook from the last several years for the same reason. My 7 year old MacBook Pro is running okay thanks to some memory and storage upgrades. I would not be able to get the same life extension with one of the new models, which makes me hesitate to get a new M…

I bought a Macbook Air recently and love it, almost want a Macbook Pro but I don't want a laptop where I can't replace the Hard Drive or RAM two things which sometimes just need a replacement. I guess I'm going for a Dell with Ubuntu next instead.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by xutopia »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #73
ricardobeat wrote: post #42

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But no macOS - despite a few warts and declining quality, still the best desktop operating system available.

That's up to personal taste. I have every day contact with macOS and can't stand it.

Could you describe what you don't like about it? For all we know it could be that you don't like the color choices they made.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by fhood »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #87
jmull wrote: post #30

Is there something new here? (I ask because it was announced months ago and isn’t due out for a few more months.) Looks great though. It’s a little overpowered for the stuff I do, where the demanding things are distributed systems which don’t make sense to host on a workstation, even in simulation. But I sure wouldn’t mind one.

I'm a programmer and so buy middle of the line macbook pros with mid range CPUs, mid range RAM, and integrated GPUS. Ironically, my wife, a designer, always chastises me for getting such slow hardware: turns out what works for a programmer doesn't work for soemone who has to use a lot of Adobe CSS :). I assume this iMac pro would be for her, not for me.

I'm a programmer and I tend to buy the thing with the largest numbers. I justify it by admitting to myself that I am only buying it because it has the largest numbers, and that it will last me longer, thus causing less pollution. But really it is just because of the numbers.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

huhtenberg wrote: post #82
aNoob7000 wrote: post #63

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To be fair, most new laptops like the Surface Pro or Dell's XPS 13 make it pretty darn hard to upgrade the memory or hard drive.

> most new laptops _ some _ new laptops Most new laptops are still fully serviceable.

Most is really ambiguous here. By units sold? Probably not (mass quantity low end laptops aren't upgradable). By dollar amount sold? Definitely not (Apple has an outsized share of the market based on revenue). By new models? Probably.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by ageofwant »

aNoob7000 wrote: post #63
stefco_ wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can't do that with the latest MacBooks, which have their SSDs soldered directly onto the logic boards. And you can't do that with memory for any Apple notebook from the last several years for the same reason. My 7 year old MacBook Pro is running okay thanks to some memory and storage upgrades. I would not be able to get the same life extension with one of the new models, which makes me hesitate to get a new M…

To be fair, most new laptops like the Surface Pro or Dell's XPS 13 make it pretty darn hard to upgrade the memory or hard drive.

I swapped out my XPS 13's broadcom flaming piece of shit radio for a intel chipset, AU$25. The disk is a swappable M.2 . They retail for ~AU$600 for a 500G. Dropped a mail to Dell Australia for a quote to upgrade the 8G MB to 16G, took them 5 working days to quote: 2 week job, AU$2300, I paid AU$2100 for the machine new.

Fuck you Dell.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

pattle wrote: post #78
urza wrote: post #14

I would worry that something breaks after warranty expires and the whole computer can go out of the window. With regular good old desktops you can just replace the broken part. With such special custom made hardware it is sometimes impossible. For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

This also means that iMac and Macbooks depreciate quite heavily in price after the warranty expires. I'm thinking of selling my Macbook Pro while I can get a decent price for it as I've now had it around 3 years. I'm better of investing that money in new parts for my PC.

MacBooks are known to have the best resell prices in the industry.

iMacs, at least the 5k, is user serviceable for RAM upgrades.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by dman »

cjsuk wrote: post #74
aykutcan wrote: post #60

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so Editing PC gave him trouble ? Why i am the only one around using PC with zero problems and much much better than any apple product?

I'm going to be honest: I never had any PC problems really until Windows 10 came around. Occasionally windows update would get bonked or I'd hose the machine myself but it was pretty reliable. That's going back to Windows NT 3.51 for me. Since Windows 10, screw it. QA is gone. So many little papercuts it's not worth it any more. I use my two Macs and rarely touch the PC, an HP z620 which has just been a total pile of…

Have you considered the possibility that you just had a bad machine?

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by KGIII »

danielvf wrote: post #9
gbersac wrote: post #2

What a monster ! 4 tera SSD, 18 Giga RAM, 18 cores...

I think you meant 128Gb ram, instead of 18gb.

I haven't read the article and I balked when they exclaimed the bit about 18 GB of RAM. That'd be an unusual number but, more importantly, is well below what I'd expect for a minimal amount of RAM in a designated 'professional' system.

These days, I'd want 64 GB as a minimum but I suppose 32 would suit for some tasks. I still muck about with some modeling that hasn't been shunted off to the GPU, so I'd even find a use for 128 GB.

A few browser tabs, email client, IDE, and Slack are going to eat up a goodly portion of 18 GB.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by fhood »

walshemj wrote: post #70
ricardobeat wrote: post #42

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But no macOS - despite a few warts and declining quality, still the best desktop operating system available.

Realy have they finally replaced finder with something as usable as filemanger in windows 3.1

What do you have against finder?

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by csomar »

urza wrote: post #14

I would worry that something breaks after warranty expires and the whole computer can go out of the window. With regular good old desktops you can just replace the broken part. With such special custom made hardware it is sometimes impossible. For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

Do you mean that even Apple can't repair it? I had problems with my Macbook Pro and they specifically ordered an item from Apple and shipped it to repair the machine.
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