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Re: iMac Pro

#42

If you want CPU/GPU power on a more realistic budget, I'd suggest something like the HP Z620/640. Dual xeons, loads of disk space, and enough power to put at least two tiptop GPUs in.

But no macOS - despite a few warts and declining quality, still the best desktop operating system available.

Re: iMac Pro

#43

This is an impressive feat of engineering to get all that hardware into a that kind of a package, but man, I bet there are a lot of pros who'd have preferred an aluminum box that they could open up. No fixability / no upgradability is the price we pay for laptops, but does it really have to be the price for desktops? I'd think that swapping a video card or adding a drive or two is the sort of thing that one might do…

>This is an impressive feat of engineering to get all that hardware into a that kind of a package, but man, I bet there are a lot of pros who'd have preferred an aluminum box that they could open up.

They have already announced that is coming later on in 2018.

Re: iMac Pro

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I would worry that something breaks after warranty expires and the whole computer can go out of the window. With regular good old desktops you can just replace the broken part. With such special custom made hardware it is sometimes impossible. For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

> For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done... Or you can go and get either a warranty extension (before it runs out) or an aftermarket SSD, like millions (including me) have done.

I am talking about models that have ssd as chips soldered to the motherboard. You cant buy aftermarket replacement for that.

Re: iMac Pro

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I would worry that something breaks after warranty expires and the whole computer can go out of the window. With regular good old desktops you can just replace the broken part. With such special custom made hardware it is sometimes impossible. For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

> For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done... Or you can go and get either a warranty extension (before it runs out) or an aftermarket SSD, like millions (including me) have done.

But you can't do that with the latest MacBooks, which have their SSDs soldered directly onto the logic boards. And you can't do that with memory for any Apple notebook from the last several years for the same reason.

My 7 year old MacBook Pro is running okay thanks to some memory and storage upgrades. I would not be able to get the same life extension with one of the new models, which makes me hesitate to get a new Mac.

Re: iMac Pro

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Ends on a bit of a fizzer. "Cool stuff, cool stuff, cool stuff, and the keyboard is gray and has a numpad now".

Think of how excited accountants will be to be able to have a numpad!

Re: iMac Pro

#48

If you want CPU/GPU power on a more realistic budget, I'd suggest something like the HP Z620/640. Dual xeons, loads of disk space, and enough power to put at least two tiptop GPUs in.

But no macOS - despite a few warts and declining quality, still the best desktop operating system available.

> declining quality

[Citation needed]

I agree that it's all about macOS, and I'd use it even if it WERE "declining," but on what basis do you make this comment, besides personal anecdote?

Re: iMac Pro

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I would worry that something breaks after warranty expires and the whole computer can go out of the window. With regular good old desktops you can just replace the broken part. With such special custom made hardware it is sometimes impossible. For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

With laptops, such as the Air, based on the great sales figures, consumers are willing to forego being able to repair versus having something compact. It also probably helps apple in the warranty department if their manufacturing quality is so high that people opening it up themselves causes more problems than the product is expected to have by itself. I used to repair my laptop and desktop, but nowadays I'd rather j…

My friend in film production tells me that his shop does a ton of editing on iMacs despite the premium on hardware. He is an enthusiast and has built his own editing PC, but he tells me the iMacs are rock-solid and never give them any trouble, despite the specs being worse on paper than some other editing machines.

I think that the consistency, quality, and software integration are worth a lot to businesses, especially mid-size businesses that don't have an entire IT department to fix issues that come up, and in these contexts, having a reliable computing monoculture means you can just focus on business.

I won't be surprised if iMac Pros do make it into plenty of business contexts.

Re: iMac Pro

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This is an impressive feat of engineering to get all that hardware into a that kind of a package, but man, I bet there are a lot of pros who'd have preferred an aluminum box that they could open up. No fixability / no upgradability is the price we pay for laptops, but does it really have to be the price for desktops? I'd think that swapping a video card or adding a drive or two is the sort of thing that one might do…

Supposedly a modular, easier-to-integrate updated hardware Mac Pro is coming at some point [1].

https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives

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