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Re: iMac Pro

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Post by coldtea »

urza wrote: post #14

I would worry that something breaks after warranty expires and the whole computer can go out of the window. With regular good old desktops you can just replace the broken part. With such special custom made hardware it is sometimes impossible. For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

>For example the macbook airs have non standard ssd that is not replaceable, so when the disk dies, whole notebook is done...

Or you can go and get either a warranty extension (before it runs out) or an aftermarket SSD, like millions (including me) have done.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by coldtea »

vbezhenar wrote: post #24

I'm not amazed. This processor will inevitable throttle, I don't believe that they could cool it to allow for constant boosting. Graphics looks like trash: it's a consumer video card (no ECC, bad double precision speed) inferior to Nvidia. And of course everything glued together will render this PC obsolete in few years without any upgrade path. I hope they'll build a proper Mac Pro.

No wireless, less space than a Nomad too.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by AmVess »

jmnicolas wrote: post #3

If they manage to get the 18 core processor without thermal throttling it will be a real feat of engineering, but I doubt it's possible. Throttling or not, I wish I was rich enough (we're probably talking about a 6 to 8k machine here !).

It's at about 460 watts TDP just for the CPU and GPU alone in top configuration, assuming standard clocks and volts. Apple will have to live with throttling, or find top-binned parts that can be undervolted and downclocked while remaining stable.

I am not an optimist. Full size chassis need some pretty serious cooling for these parts, and I see none of that with the Pro.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by Gaelan »

chiph wrote: post #17

Why is this an iMac and not a Mac Pro? Did they decide that the "can" wasn't being bought in enough numbers?

Iirc the can had some thermal issues with anything more that it’s current specs. Apple says a redesigned Pro is in the works.

Re: iMac Pro

#36

Post by Finnucane »

jarym wrote: post #19

Seeing the history of updates to the Mac Mini and Mac Pro why would anyone trust Apple with a high end desktop computer? The odds are high that they'll keep pumping this thing largely unchanged for the next 5 years while letting the state of technology race ahead. I'm saying this because no matter what Apple say, their focus is undoubtedly on what makes them the most money: iPhones.

Yeah, this seems like kind of an odd compromise, for people who want the power of a high-end machine, but the convenience of an all-in-one and are willing to give up upgradability for it?

Also, the 'real' new Mac Pro is supposed to be announced soonish--at this point it would seem to make more sense to wait and see what that offers before committing to this anyway.

(Though I suppose if you are in a corporate environment where buying is driven by accountants who replace everything as soon as the thing outlives its depreciation schedule--or even have everything on leases, like we do here--maybe the fact that it will someday be relatively obsolete doesn't matter).

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by captainmuon »

jarym wrote: post #19

Seeing the history of updates to the Mac Mini and Mac Pro why would anyone trust Apple with a high end desktop computer? The odds are high that they'll keep pumping this thing largely unchanged for the next 5 years while letting the state of technology race ahead. I'm saying this because no matter what Apple say, their focus is undoubtedly on what makes them the most money: iPhones.

> I'm saying this because no matter what Apple say, their focus is undoubtedly on what makes them the most money: iPhones.

I've never understood that argument. If iMacs make profit - any profit at all - why can't they just put up a shack next to their main building UFO and have a subdivision crank out iMacs? It's a question of having or not having "a few additional millions".

Also, a large part of their iOS business is tied to macs - you need a mac for development, and they don't want that platform to become so bad to hurt iOS development.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by jrs95 »

peatmoss wrote: post #20

This is an impressive feat of engineering to get all that hardware into a that kind of a package, but man, I bet there are a lot of pros who'd have preferred an aluminum box that they could open up. No fixability / no upgradability is the price we pay for laptops, but does it really have to be the price for desktops? I'd think that swapping a video card or adding a drive or two is the sort of thing that one might do…

There is supposed to be a more standard desktop system coming 2018 or early 2019, I think.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

kar1181 wrote: post #29

No mention of the word upgrade anywhere. A pro computer needs to be re-configurable after purchase.

The iMac Pro is basically a stopgap until the new Mac Pro's arrive next year.

They actually acknowledged they messed up with the 'dustbin' Mac Pro and it's lack of upgradability, which is a first. (https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/4/15175994/apple-mac-pro-fai...). They are working on a completely new Mac Pro to address the issues actual pro's have, but that's going to take a while. The iMac Pro is just here to fill the gap.

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