Could ayahuasca have health benefits?

Post by KennyCason » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 4:36 AM UTC

kobeya wrote: post #137

odammit wrote: post #85

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Most acid trips feel like a run on sentence. It’s the perfect medium for describing one :D

Sure, but this comment was supposed to convince me do undergo hallucinogenic treatment because it can be profound experience, or something. I'm not really sure actually, but it does say that in the first sentence. The actual result could not have been more different. I'll Nope out of that one, thank you.

Post by afro88 » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 6:41 AM UTC

laser wrote: post #41

afro88 wrote: post #36

A negative anecdote: a friend of a friend of a friend went on a retreat and did actually lose his mind. He needs help and probably will for the rest of his life. Just putting it out there for some balance. I’ve heard my fair share of positive anecdotes too.

So some guy on the internet says that a friend of a friend of a friend of his lost his mind on Ayahuasca? Based on schizophrenia rates, I suspect pretty much everyone even has a friend of a friend that might catalyze their latent schizophrenia through psychedelics. But, the idea that psychedelics cause mental illness in those that otherwise would have been fine is not supported by scientific evidence[1][2], only anec…

Post by tudorw » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 7:37 AM UTC

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Can confirm, addictions to sugar, caffeine, alcohol and cannabis evaporated during my trip and did not return for many weeks. I had never felt so peaceful and balanced in my life. Whereas previously I was trying to escape chaos with substances, now consuming substances would only serve unbalance me. I felt like, wow, this is what a human being is supposed to feel like! When you face what is within you, and process it…

Ibogaine also reportedly has that effect. [1] Out of the addictions you claim you had, only alcohol is severe. Cannabis is mostly psychological addiction but users often combine it with tobacco which is also physiological addicting. Caffeine addiction is very easy to break with some sheer willpower. The withdrawal symptoms only last 1-2 days, and the side effects are a serious headache. That's nothing compared to her…

Post by icarito » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 1:02 PM UTC

colordrops wrote: post #30

icarito wrote: post #27

As a practitioner of traditional amazonian spiritual tradition, I and my family drink Ayahuasca on a regular basis and find it to be invaluable, our first line of defense for disease both physical and spiritual.

Did you pick up this tradition through family or did seek out this practice and learn it?

Post by KennyCason » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 1:57 PM UTC

kobeya wrote: post #138

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Well, could’t You say the same thing about experiences of any nature? For example: our thoughts always affect our body/mind .. if I take a drug or in the case of ayahuasca an entheogen, it creates a non ordinary state of consciousness, which -if strong enough- can permanently change the way I feel and act. The same you could achieve by meditating on a regular basis or going on a long trip, having a traumatic experien…

It permanently changes you by causing conditions by which your brain rewires itself. For psychiatric patients that is often a good thing because where they are at is not a good place. But why would you throw a spanner in the works if you're already a well adjusted individual? If you want to be content and enjoy life, why not get a lobotomy. It's a more consistent result. Oh you don't want to do that to your brain? We…