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Las Vegas Shooting Kills More Than 50

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Courage. If nothing happened after Sandy Hook, nothing will happen unless someone really decides that enough is enough.

But what exactly is enough? Unless we have a solution to this horrendous problem, the current state of affairs will not subside. Just shouting “ban assult rifles” will not solve the problem. We need an elaborte plan reasoned by principle rather than by analogy.

how about the precautionary principle?

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Courage. If nothing happened after Sandy Hook, nothing will happen unless someone really decides that enough is enough.

Out of curiosity: how are Norway's gun control laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks All it takes is one dangerous idiot and/or fanatic.

Australia banned guns after a mass shooting in 1996. They've haven't had a mass shooting since.

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Out of curiosity: how are Norway's gun control laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks All it takes is one dangerous idiot and/or fanatic.

Australia banned guns after a mass shooting in 1996. They've haven't had a mass shooting since.

so what would you say happened June 6th 2017? certainly not a mass shooting... what makes it mass? after that incident, Police said they had stopped 12 similar attacks based on intelligence since September 2014.

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What does it take for something to be done about these mass shootings that just keep happening?

The real problem is people. You can talk about gun control all you want but evil is a people problem—not a gun problem.

No, the real problem is mass shootings. Evil may be a people problem, but mass shootings are an American problem.

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What does it take for something to be done about these mass shootings that just keep happening?

There isn't an easy solution for this type of thing. They will keep happening no matter what you do to try and stop them. Gun control will probably help halt the ones that happen as an impulsive action, but there's no regulation that will stop a terrorist from achieving their goal.

> There isn't an easy solution for this type of thing.

Clearly there is since there's only one "civilised" country that experiences anywhere near this order of magnitude of mass shootings.

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We need to fall to this matter yarely, else we are unraveld. Such acts of terror are not bound by: “ type of weapon”, “nationality”, “circumstances”, etc. Instead of aiming our efforts and resources at the “wrong solutions”, I belive we need to ask first the right questions. We need to boil things down to its most fundamental truths, and reason up from there.

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Courage. If nothing happened after Sandy Hook, nothing will happen unless someone really decides that enough is enough.

But what exactly is enough? Unless we have a solution to this horrendous problem, the current state of affairs will not subside. Just shouting “ban assult rifles” will not solve the problem. We need an elaborte plan reasoned by principle rather than by analogy.

If people aren't within weapons range of each other they can't shoot each other. So force everyone to stay a mile away from everyone else, and increase the range until the problem goes away.

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There isn't an easy solution for this type of thing. They will keep happening no matter what you do to try and stop them. Gun control will probably help halt the ones that happen as an impulsive action, but there's no regulation that will stop a terrorist from achieving their goal.

> There isn't an easy solution for this type of thing. Clearly there is since there's only one "civilised" country that experiences anywhere near this order of magnitude of mass shootings.

That's why I mentioned gun control. This won't stop everybody though. Here in the Netherlands we have tight gun control and we still had a mass shooting with licensed guns. Also, we've seen many attacks in Europe recently with illegally imported guns.

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> There isn't an easy solution for this type of thing. Clearly there is since there's only one "civilised" country that experiences anywhere near this order of magnitude of mass shootings.

That's why I mentioned gun control. This won't stop everybody though. Here in the Netherlands we have tight gun control and we still had a mass shooting with licensed guns. Also, we've seen many attacks in Europe recently with illegally imported guns.

> a mass shooting

The key word here though is "a". The US is on 273 this year alone.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

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