Wonder what Tesla's vision-based automatic driving makes of this.
Doesn't Tesla rely on much more than just visual imagery? I mean it can drive at night.
3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
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Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't like speedbumps, but they work.
You're not supposed to like them; and really the only people that are inconvenienced by them are those going to fast anyway.
Some of them are pretty awful, making the whole car shudder even when you creep across slower-than-idle. (This is typically the ones that look more like a 2x4 than a hump)
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#123In Santa Clara, California, there are several crosswalks at intersections not controlled by a traffic light. There is an ongoing problem with cars not properly yielding to crossing pedestrians (I mean, like, ever ). I almost got killed in one twice in one week. As a driver, I get rude treatment (and some near-collisions) when I stop for pedestrians. A pedestrian was killed in the one near Halford a couple of months a…
Ambiguity in such contexts is inherently unsafe.
For that reason I think, my local municipality has started putting signs with instructions on these types of traffic lights. I am thankful.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#124In Santa Clara, California, there are several crosswalks at intersections not controlled by a traffic light. There is an ongoing problem with cars not properly yielding to crossing pedestrians (I mean, like, ever ). I almost got killed in one twice in one week. As a driver, I get rude treatment (and some near-collisions) when I stop for pedestrians. A pedestrian was killed in the one near Halford a couple of months a…
Part of the problem with motorists not yielding at zebra crossings is because many pedestrians are not aggressive enough and behave as though the car has right of way. What seems to work for me in most situations is to walk up to the crossing while making eye contact with the driver and not slowing down or breaking step until it is clear that if I go further I will be run over. The driver must then decide whether or…
Seems like a good way to end up dead right.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#125There is an analogy here to the slippery-slope of attention-getting ads on the Internet. Once upon a time an ad was just a static (not even animated) banner of a certain size and shape. 468x60 was one of the earliest, IIRC. Advertisers invented new formats ("skyscrapers", "xl-leaderboards", "300x250", and so on), and also they got animated, and then they started expanding outside their areas, and so on; each new ad t…
> but in the long run it may return to normal and in my opinion, our world will be uglier. Not just uglier, but less safe in my opinion. If people have returned to their normal driving habits (speeding over these 3d illusions) it means that at some level, they have reprogrammed their brains to ignore some 3d-like obstacles, because they may be fake. It works in case of the illusion, but I wonder if it would eventuall…
Totally agree. This strikes me as a reckless strategy. The transportation authorities are quite literally training people to ignore their eyes when they see obstacles.
You could argue that drivers should treat a crosswalk the same as a real obstacle insofar as they should slow down and carefully assess the situation before continuing to drive, but that sounds like every other idealistic, prescriptive (rather than descriptive) attempt at policy-making. The people who will treat crosswalks with care and attention were probably doing so already, and I suspect that the people who were not previously paying attention to crosswalks will quickly return to their old behavior.
The failure modes also strike me as worse. If someone is already not paying attention, and they suddenly notice what looks like an object right in their path, they might reflexively veer away from it and into a pedestrian. I can think of other such scenarios.
I just don't understand how this idea wasn't immediately and definitively struck down as soon as it was proposed.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#126Helps to have a concept of scale here. This is a tiny town in the remote fjords in northern Iceland. The speed is likely caused by tourists looking around and not paying attention, so grabbing their attention will probably work in this case. Starting point in maps street view - zoom out and walk around the town for 5 min - you'll gain a better perspective on what's going on here: https://www.google.com/maps/@66.07396…
>The speed is likely caused by tourists looking around and not paying attention I suspect it's Romanians, as they're really bad drivers. For example, in Romania drivers will not stop at a crosswalk to let you pass unless you stare at them for a few seconds to make eye contact, and even then it depends on their mood and how hurried they are. They're basically a menace on the roads.
Why would you suspect Romanians in particular in Iceland? Why not citizens from other European countries who as have relatively many road fatalities per capita?
I am usually most worried about Americans since many have little experience with roundabouts and they are used to turning right on red, often in practice without a full stop. This is very dangerous for cyclists and pedestrians.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're in range of the polar night, and headlights are mandatory to be on at all times. It can be a dark place.
Sure, but there's night everywhere at some point, it's just longer in Iceland sometimes.
During the winter, it's about 5 hours of daylight. I recommend visiting there; it's absolutely beautiful during the sunrise/set, and you'd understand what I mean about it being a dark place.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#128Helps to have a concept of scale here. This is a tiny town in the remote fjords in northern Iceland. The speed is likely caused by tourists looking around and not paying attention, so grabbing their attention will probably work in this case. Starting point in maps street view - zoom out and walk around the town for 5 min - you'll gain a better perspective on what's going on here: https://www.google.com/maps/@66.07396…
>The speed is likely caused by tourists looking around and not paying attention I suspect it's Romanians, as they're really bad drivers. For example, in Romania drivers will not stop at a crosswalk to let you pass unless you stare at them for a few seconds to make eye contact, and even then it depends on their mood and how hurried they are. They're basically a menace on the roads.
Considering the majority of tourists (from my observation) in Iceland are American, I’m not really sure why you bring up Romanians.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but there's night everywhere at some point, it's just longer in Iceland sometimes.
During the winter, it's about 5 hours of daylight. I recommend visiting there; it's absolutely beautiful during the sunrise/set, and you'd understand what I mean about it being a dark place.
I've been, that's why I ask. It didn't seem darker than any other place at night. It's absolutely beautiful at all times, though.
Re: 3D crosswalk in Iceland helps slow down speeding motorists
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't like speedbumps, but they work.
You're not supposed to like them; and really the only people that are inconvenienced by them are those going to fast anyway.
Austin has some speed bumps that I didn't notice on my first visit. It felt like the transmission had dropped out of my rental. After that I was as careful as can be to watch out for them. Austin also has a nice concept of "Don't block the box" for their intersections. In my neck of the Midwest, people always wait in the intersection, and it slows down traffic immensely. You get a green signal, then have to wait for the three cars in the intersection to move...