> When you need to ask a colleague something, walk up to his/her desk instead of dropping a message 'Did you get that email I sent you?' Ahhhhhh~ No. Please don't. There's plenty of good advice on this article, but be careful that the things that you do for yourself don't negatively impact other people ; that's not be healthy, its being thoughtless and selfish.
Sitting down too much is doing more harm to your body than you can imagine
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#83I find that routine is important to getting regular exercise and movement. I am one of those programmers who likes getting into a 'flow' state and working for large blocks of time, so my strategy is to try and get a 1 hr walk in the morning when I wake up. Much as people like to check their Inbox first thing to get it out of the way before starting productive work, I find that getting my walk in the morning before I…
> I took up Kendo about 18 months ago, and the regularly scheduled classes and training sessions are good for forcing me off the computer and go work up a sweat. I especially love the little 30 second meditation we do at the start and end of each class. Mokuso was integral to teaching me to relax and focus; I try to continue meditating even though I haven't done kendo for years, but some days I just want to be sittin…
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#84But sedentary life of scientists brought all the advances in medicine, thanks to which the life expectancy went up. I prefer sedentary lifestyle with modern medicine to active hunting lifestile and life expectancy of 50.
Why not healthy lifestyle and modern medicine?
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#85> When you need to ask a colleague something, walk up to his/her desk instead of dropping a message 'Did you get that email I sent you?' Ahhhhhh~ No. Please don't. There's plenty of good advice on this article, but be careful that the things that you do for yourself don't negatively impact other people ; that's not be healthy, its being thoughtless and selfish.
It never ceases to amaze me how much others think they entitled to your time while working. They'll start conversations when all nonverbal signals show you are trying to get something done. Im at the point where I am going to be forced to be outright rude, which is not easy for me, just to be able to work undisturbed.
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#86> Anyways, it’s not that complex to tackle this. A few changes in your habits should do the trick. This is complete garbage. The fact is, there is nothing you do to do 100% reverse the effects of sitting all day. You can maybe improve things by 20% or something like that. Progressive people keep hoping that you can use some kind of technology to change things but you can't. Standing desks don't do anything, standing…
> This is complete garbage Citation? Because there are a lot of studies on the positive impact of exercise. And there are plenty of very healthy people that spend most of the day sitting but implement spaced exercise plans.
> Because there are a lot of studies on the positive impact of exercise.
None of those studies say "this 100% reverses the effects of sitting".
> And there are plenty of very healthy people that spend most of the day sitting but implement spaced exercise plans.
I know experts in health and fitness who spend a lot of the time at the gym who will even admit to you that they can't get their body right. You can watch them implementing standing desks and various things and constantly trying to implement new things. None of them are working because they are constantly still trying to implement new ways to correct their sitting around all day. It will never work because there is no technology solution to anything and there never has been. There is no technological solution to climate change. You can't have 7 billion people on the earth. There is nothing you can do.
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#87> Anyways, it’s not that complex to tackle this. A few changes in your habits should do the trick. This is complete garbage. The fact is, there is nothing you do to do 100% reverse the effects of sitting all day. You can maybe improve things by 20% or something like that. Progressive people keep hoping that you can use some kind of technology to change things but you can't. Standing desks don't do anything, standing…
> The only solution is to go back to living that way no matter how hard you try to believe anything else. Nobody can confidently assert this now; you are stating your belief, not a fact. We would need to do longitudinal studies on all the alternatives (standing desks, periodic walking) to be able to build up a picture. To my knowledge, that has not yet been done. It may take decades to build up a picture. Until then,…
What does confidently asserting something have to do with a lack of scientific proof? Personal experience allows people to confidently assert things.
> We would need to do longitudinal studies on all the alternatives (standing desks, periodic walking) to be able to build up a picture. To my knowledge, that has not yet been done. It may take decades to build up a picture.
You can build up a picture on the previous decades where everything has failed. Technology has failed. Standing desks have failed. Current "workstations" were the solution to previous problems, and they have failed. Everything has failed. We are at a turning point where non-science religion people have realised that we can't keep going down the same path while technological messiahs keep claiming the future will be great.
We can look back at the decline in human health. Why do we need tooth paste? It isn't a revolutionary new advance, it is a way to make our teeth slightly better but never better than before farming and industrialisation.
Re: Sitting down too much is doing more harm to your body than you can imagine
#88Yet in just a few months I feel my posture improving since I started psychotherapy and somatic experiencing therapy for trauma. Along with that I go to yoga once or twice a week. It's importnat to note here because I see the cogs spinning already... I actually did yoga years ago and did not notice the same effects. Therapy has been key to the changes I've observed in my posture.
My conclusion is a lot of bodily tensions are connected with unresolved emotional charges. This is related to the nervous system at some level.
My point is that posture, and general routine is symptomatic of your general emotional wellbeing.
As with all things in life, moderation is the key. Just doing a 1h30 yoga class once a week will probably offset much of the problems mentioned in the article.
I mean, I've sat at a computer (both for passion and work) for the past twenty years and have NEVER been fat. In fact I was underweight due to anxiety. I put on some weight in the gym in my early thirties which 70% have stayed without doing any regular exercise (which further confirms a health issue symptomatic of emotional / nervous system troubles affecting appetite).
I suspect that improving posture and making an effort to keep a good posture goes a long way also to offset the problems of sitting.
Don't get me wrong.. I can see in yoga class that sitting a lot has made muscles between inner thigh and pelvis very tight, as well as all the front making it diffuclt to stretch in various postures.
The problem here is assuming that N hours spent sitting equal N equivalent "damage". But that's not how our body works. It may be that you only need a good gym or yoga session just once a week to offset much of the problem. Not that it "undoes" the damage; but rather seeps into the rest of the week with more tonus in posture, and more postural awareness.
TLDR: context. Nobody gets fat because of sitting. If weight is really an issue I would suggest to seek therapy or if you feel that is not needed, try yoga or massage. Anything that takes you out of the left hemisphere's imbalance (cf. "The Divided Brain" by Iaian McGilchrist), and nurture more being in direct contact with the body, sensations, breathing.. as well as being more connected with others outside of intellectual activities. Surprisingly a lot of people think that "socializing" means talking. No, to be truly with others around you, is to be able to be there instead of taking refuge in the mind. That means to be at home in your body and how it feels. It's a journey.. it doesn't need to be taken in a couple days ;)
Re: Sitting down too much is doing more harm to your body than you can imagine
#89It has nothing to do with the stated concern based on the cited research whatsoever at all.
The issues raised here refer to base level physical activity and its influence on things like triglyceride and cholesterol behaviors. And the repeating pattern is that even small activities, like moving around to get a drink, or just standing, literally doing nothing else, raise you into the threshold where your body is "normal" in how it deals with these things.
Sitting, however, seems to be an outlier, allowing a degradation of these processes. Well guess what? Exercising once a day even won't change that, as the response time is quick. SO this isn't about you being a bike commuter, a rock climber, or a swimmer. It's about sitting specifically. It's about mounting evidence that our bodies evolved to expect constant muscular activity even at low levels and the near zero that happens during sitting is an outlier.
You know, sitting is fairly unusual. In many areas of the world, both ancient and modern, people don't really sit. They squat, or stand, or shuffle around, but full on sitting is uncommon for a lot of people. I betcha the ol' asian/slavic squat activates enough muscles to not count as sitting.
In one of the papers they even concede that heavy fidgeting might be enough to breach the threshold.
So really what we're talking about is getting out of your chair, moving around, all the time if possible. Yeah that's hard for a programmer. Plus you can't ignore even very current research showing that standing itself, is harmful when doing it too much (for totally unrelated reasons.) So standing desks are a bad plan too.
You know, I can't sit that long. I am not too worried about this for me. I shift around too much. Stand and wander in thought, get drinks, go to the bathroom, slide off my chair and kneel at the desk. Grab the tablet and flop around all over the house (I WFH 100%.) I go crazy staying at the desk constantly, for work anyway. Let's not talk about leisure time :)
But upon reviewing a number of these studies, this is apparently exactly what's needed. Standing 1 minute every hour isn't a enough, no. But it's the right direction. The problem mainly being that sitting in a chair requires little to no physical effort at all whatsoever. That's the issue.
Exercising 2, 3, 5 days a week, 1-2-3 hours? Doesn't matter. Don't confuse the two issues.
That said, I bet those goofy desk bicycling things you put by your chair would do the trick, assuming they actually require some level of effort.
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#90> Anyways, it’s not that complex to tackle this. A few changes in your habits should do the trick. This is complete garbage. The fact is, there is nothing you do to do 100% reverse the effects of sitting all day. You can maybe improve things by 20% or something like that. Progressive people keep hoping that you can use some kind of technology to change things but you can't. Standing desks don't do anything, standing…
> This is complete garbage Citation? Because there are a lot of studies on the positive impact of exercise. And there are plenty of very healthy people that spend most of the day sitting but implement spaced exercise plans.
Your muscles are fixed in a position. I know pretty much everything there is to know about the muscles involved. The hip flexors are constantly shortened from sitting all day. Some of them attach to your leg, others to your spine. You cannot spend an hour in the gym or stretching and fix 8 hours of sitting. It is simply impossible. I have tried everything you can do. You can strengthen the hip extensors such as the glutes and hamstrings, but it still doesn't work. You can stretch the hip flexors and it still won't work. It just improves things a bit. You will find people all over the internet say "how do I fix my anterior pelvic tilt", and they will continue asking the same questions forever because there are no 100% solutions.