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Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by egwynn »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #85
thatfrenchguy wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a French person: stop subsidizing corn, start subsidizing vegetables, stop eating take-out. If you look at a middle-class supermarket in France and in the US you understand why your poor are obese pretty quickly.

Yes and no. I live in the USA. I shop in a few different supermarket each catering to a particular class (if you will). Mind you, the overall selection reflects the income level the store serves. But that doesn't completely explain what goes into the carts. Long to short, I'm not so sure the less well to do are making decisions that keep them healthy. Soda, ice cream, sugary cereals, etc. These things are in the uppe…

The way I’ve heard it explained is that poor people will base their grocery purchases based on price, and that gets to GP’s point about not subsidizing corn. The reasoning goes: cheap corn leads to low-end food being filled with corn syrup, which leads to poor people eating tons of sugar, which leads to health problems among poor people. The solution, under this scheme, is to help steer the schedule of food prices so that it’s cheaper for people to eat healthy food (eliminate corn subsidies).

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by ghaff »

caseysoftware wrote: post #62

My mother and wife were both photographers at some point and basically every photo is modified, touched up, and otherwise "enhanced" in Photoshop or other tools. It doesn't matter if it's a landscape, a room setting, or a person. While saying "this has been modified" might be valuable, without knowing how this seems misguided at best.

To be fair, the law seems to be quite a bit more specific than that. It applies to commercial use of models "whose physical appearance has been modified through the use of image processing software to slim down or thicken the model's silhouette" according to the translation on this site. [1]

[1] http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2017/08/france-photoshop-decree...

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by chiefalchemist »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #86
jdavis703 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The food we have in the U.S., particularly in low-income areas is atrocious. However there are a lot of excuses being made about obesity, including that it's caused by poverty. Yes poverty is a component, but the obesity epidemic is striking all income groups, with no particular correlation to income [0]. It's more about the diet and exercise choices that people choose to make, include the middle class and upper clas…

Bad food, far too little sleep, and sedentia... the perfect trifecta to cause depression, anxiety and obesity (and later diabetes, heart disease and Alzheimers).

Yup. But, evidently, the cost of healthcare is due to the system. What those critics fail to admit is that the biggest component of that system are the people seeking care, and the average baseline health there of.

Americans want to abuse their bodies (and minds) and expect healthcare to remain cheap. It doesn't work that way. Healthcare resources are limited. Increase demand and prices increases.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by hrktb »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #29
VirtualAirwaves wrote: post #20

In the United States, Obesity is one of the leading causes of death, with estimates as high as 300,000 deaths/year. (See https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html ) Deaths from Anorexia are about 150/year (See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11513012 ) Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese. It would be like spending weeks in urban schools talking about how to avoid poison…

As a French person: stop subsidizing corn, start subsidizing vegetables, stop eating take-out. If you look at a middle-class supermarket in France and in the US you understand why your poor are obese pretty quickly.

What does eating take-out have to do with obesity ?

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by runeks »

VirtualAirwaves wrote: post #20

In the United States, Obesity is one of the leading causes of death, with estimates as high as 300,000 deaths/year. (See https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html ) Deaths from Anorexia are about 150/year (See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11513012 ) Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese. It would be like spending weeks in urban schools talking about how to avoid poison…

> Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese

So you think the problem lies in obese people being unaware of how much they weigh?

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by [deleted] »

VirtualAirwaves wrote: post #20

In the United States, Obesity is one of the leading causes of death, with estimates as high as 300,000 deaths/year. (See https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html ) Deaths from Anorexia are about 150/year (See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11513012 ) Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese. It would be like spending weeks in urban schools talking about how to avoid poison…

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Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by Mz »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #89
jdavis703 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The food we have in the U.S., particularly in low-income areas is atrocious. However there are a lot of excuses being made about obesity, including that it's caused by poverty. Yes poverty is a component, but the obesity epidemic is striking all income groups, with no particular correlation to income [0]. It's more about the diet and exercise choices that people choose to make, include the middle class and upper clas…

Its effecting all income levels, but I suspect not evenly. The pattern I see (which is anecdotal) is higher income people appear healthier (i.e., are on average less overweight). Sometimes I wonder if that's cause or correlation. That is, ill and wealthy just don't go together.

There is a complex relationship there that can be summed up pithily as "Them that has, gets."

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by paulddraper »

coldtea wrote: post #78
paulddraper wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Problem solved." I don't think you've predicted this correctly. Does the prominence matter? Size? Adjacent material?

> Does the prominence matter? Size? Adjacent material? No, no and no.

Okay. The last page of each issue with be the names and headshots of the 100 top staff at the magazine. "Problem solved."

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by smegel »

VirtualAirwaves wrote: post #20

In the United States, Obesity is one of the leading causes of death, with estimates as high as 300,000 deaths/year. (See https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html ) Deaths from Anorexia are about 150/year (See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11513012 ) Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese. It would be like spending weeks in urban schools talking about how to avoid poison…

It's crazy really.

Showing extreme thinness is probably not healthy, but that is not what this is about.

All these photoshopped images show fit, but not anorexic bodies.

Encouraging healthy diets and exercise to achieve bodies like that is not a public health threat.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Post by chiefalchemist »

Mz wrote: post #97
chiefalchemist wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its effecting all income levels, but I suspect not evenly. The pattern I see (which is anecdotal) is higher income people appear healthier (i.e., are on average less overweight). Sometimes I wonder if that's cause or correlation. That is, ill and wealthy just don't go together.

There is a complex relationship there that can be summed up pithily as "Them that has, gets."

But has is also a function of decisions, which is also related to knowledge / awareness. No doubt, lower income areas have less / worse selection. But that kinda doesn't explain why the better off don't choose and consume those same things as they are just as available to them.
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