It’s time to give Firefox another chance • Hacker News Board

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by amiga-workbench » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:24 PM UTC

3131s wrote: post #530

mda wrote: post #520

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It was slow, janky unresponsive compared to Chrome. Also security was much weaker. I think they addressed some of the issues now.

I agree with the GP -- I never noticed this in Firefox and years back I was surprised to learn after the fact that Chrome had come to dominate in market share. Was Firefox less performant on Windows or something? I never really got what people were complaining about as a user of Firefox on Linux... However, the new beta is purely awesome. I don't think I've ever been so excited about a new software version release! W…

I've used them side by side before and the default scrolling behaviour felt janky as hell.

I'll be very pleased if they have improved performance as much as everybody is saying, I want off the Google botnet.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by yalogin » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

I am glad I never gave up on Firefox. Of course I did not give chrome a shot as I did not want to shift from Firefox. I never found it to be slow either.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by seriocomic » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

This has been nice timing for me as I've been looking to cut my ties from "being the product" with Google. I'm using the current beta FirefoxDeveloperEdition and am looking forward to the upcoming rewrite in 57 (59?).

Others have mentioned pocket's integration, but I can't wait to see the open-source code, I've already set-up my own Shaarli and Wallabag instances.

I'm still evaluating Brave and Vivaldi after being a long time (2+ years) user of Chomium. The only thing that's hardest to find is the separate identity management and Sync that comes so easily in Chrome/Chromium.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by majewsky » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:30 PM UTC

yorwba wrote: post #513

majewsky wrote: post #475

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When I copy this URL into the addressbar and hit Enter, it just disappears. Probably a security feature.

That doesn't happen for me, I can access the Vimium options by copying the URl. Do you have the extension installed?

Uhm, "Vimium" vor "Vimium-FF"?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by badsectoracula » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:35 PM UTC

mk89 wrote: post #81

Never abandoned Firefox. Now what? :) And please, donate to Mozilla, if you can. They really do deserve some help. Fighting against giants like Google, MS and Apple... They have products running on all kinds of possible platforms, also on old Android phones! And they have some of the best extensions.

> And they have some of the best extensions.

Sadly 11 of the 14 extensions i use do not work on Firefox 57 (i just tried it). The browser is indeed faster - it feels faster than Chrome and Edge - but i never really had an issue with its performance. On the other hand i have a very big issue with the functionality that is lost. Stylish, FireFTP, Greasemonkey (with its own extensions), Better Reader, DownThemAll and a bunch of other addons are things i rely on almost daily (e.g. the internet became way brighter the moment Stylish stopped working :-P) and there are either no plans to update, no alternatives or the alternatives are simply way inferior (e.g. FireFTP is my favorite (S)FTP client for years now, i use DownThemAll for pretty much every download, i use Stylish themes in many sites to tone the sunburns down, i use Better Reader to make Reader mode actually usable, etc.

Firefox is sadly solving a problem i never had and in the process it introduces a problem that for me is a showstopper.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by yorwba » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:41 PM UTC

majewsky wrote: post #544

yorwba wrote: post #513

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That doesn't happen for me, I can access the Vimium options by copying the URl. Do you have the extension installed?

Uhm, "Vimium" vor "Vimium-FF"?

As I understand it, Vimium for Chrome and Vimium-FF share the same code base (https://github.com/philc/vimium), even the addon site for Vimium-FF just calls it "Vimium" (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/).

So if it's in Firefox, it's Vimium-FF. (And I'm using Firefox, in case that wasn't clear.)

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by CydeWeys » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:42 PM UTC

ce4 wrote: post #439

eastWestMath wrote: post #404

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Doesn't google have more than one failed social network?

Buzz, Wave, Orkut, Talk, Hangouts, Google Plus, Allo, Duo, forced YouTube comments merge to G+

Duo is certainly not "failed"; it's actually doing very well internationally. It has the best video quality at the least bandwidth.

If I launched an app that got over a hundred million downloads and had many millions of monthly users I certainly wouldn't call that a failure!

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by syshum » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:44 PM UTC

skrebbel wrote: post #528

kuschku wrote: post #467

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> Netflix only streams 720p video to Firefox, Opera, and Chrome whereas it will stream 1080p or better to Safari, IE 11, and Edge Yeah, that's due to DRM. The simple solution is to disable the EME plugin, and just pirate everything (while still paying for Netflix). You pay for it, and have a moral right to it, and you can watch it in 1080p or 4K easily.

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't your OS have a native Netflix app?

My OS is Arch Linux.... so no

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by arca_vorago » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:48 PM UTC

I rather think it's time to give emacs-eww another chance as well.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by freehunter » Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 1:49 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #317

freehunter wrote: post #223

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There are an awful lot of green user names lately shutting down conversations using things like "citation needed" or "prove it" on subjects where it's completely inconsequential or the conclusion is obvious. Everyone can easily see how old your account is and the devs of HN made it that way on purpose. Apologies if anyone here isn't willing to bend over backwards for the demands of an account that wasn't even created…

This kind of personal attacking is totally uncalled for here. Either their statement is correct or it is not, either Chrome is doing tracking on the sly or it is not. Either there is proof, or there is not. The burden of proof is on the one making the argument. So which is it?

>This kind of personal attacking is totally uncalled for here.

If that was true, new accounts wouldn't be clearly marked as green in the comments.