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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by philipov »

lugg wrote: post #505
dralley wrote: post #282

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While Mozilla has had quite a few projects that didn't really pan out, I'm not sure you're giving them enough credit. They developed (well... became the first and most significant major backer of) an entirely new programming language, purely for the purposes of building a better browser. And then devoted tons of resources for years into developing Servo, a massive and complex project that is only being realized now.…

The above poster is also neglecting to realise Mozilla is not a normal business in it for profit (as far as I understand it - correct me if I'm wrong.) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_Foundation_Projects The foundation has a crazy long history of funding open source and various pursuits. Comparing their style of execution to google is just rediculously unfair on so many levels.

Not only that, but it fails to recognize how much money Google has 'wasted' on projects they went on to kill off. They have quite a reputation for it. Google just has a lot more money to 'waste' on research.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by johndoe489 »

I am definitely willing to give it a shot but they need to fix the dev tools.

I'm on 56 atm in Windows 10 / 16 GB RAM / Core i5-3570K and for whatever reason when I press F12 to open up the console it is really sluggish and takes a good whole second to draw itself.

Does 57 solve that?

That said I could see myself just using Chrome for development and FIrefox as main browser. I did the opposite for a while until Firebug was phased out and Chrome Dev Tools became better.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by mda »

Sideloader wrote: post #4

Firefox has been my daily driver for 2-3 years now. I’d switched to Chrome several years before that but when FF fixed its lag issues I went back right away. Mozilla overplay the “not for profit” card but with Google you can be sure they are collecting and archiving absolutely everything that passes through their servers.

Everything that pass through their servers? This Bs is thrown around so much, no one cares if it is true or not anymore.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by eth0up »

Not much about privacy in the comments here, surprisingly. I'd have a lot more jollier sentiments for Firefox if they'd address the sort of issues exemplified here: https://browserleaks.com/ FF is my preferred (chromium 2nd) browser, but there aren't many alternatives. I'm not a dev, but my impression is that modern browsers are designed as advertisement and data-leak protocols with incidental browsing capabilities.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by 482794793792894 »

throwaway613834 wrote: post #57
copperx wrote: post #49

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Do you close your browser that often?

Yeah, I close tabs when I don't need them which pretty often means I have nothing open. It's just cognitive overload and a distraction to constantly have tabs open.

For my mental cleanup it works to have about:config?filter=browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab set to false.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by throwaway613834 »

482794793792894 wrote: post #526
throwaway613834 wrote: post #57

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Yeah, I close tabs when I don't need them which pretty often means I have nothing open. It's just cognitive overload and a distraction to constantly have tabs open.

For my mental cleanup it works to have about:config?filter=browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab set to false.

Windows and tabs are both cognitive overload for me, I don't treat regular windows any differently from browser tabs.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by skrebbel »

kuschku wrote: post #467
clouddrover wrote: post #357

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> Netflix is force of habit, it works great in Firefox now Netflix doesn't work great in either Firefox or Chrome, but that's not the browser's fault. Netflix only streams 720p video to Firefox, Opera, and Chrome whereas it will stream 1080p or better to Safari, IE 11, and Edge: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742 You can see the playback details (formats, resolution, bit rate, etc.) of the video you're currently…

> Netflix only streams 720p video to Firefox, Opera, and Chrome whereas it will stream 1080p or better to Safari, IE 11, and Edge Yeah, that's due to DRM. The simple solution is to disable the EME plugin, and just pirate everything (while still paying for Netflix). You pay for it, and have a moral right to it, and you can watch it in 1080p or 4K easily.

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't your OS have a native Netflix app?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by 3131s »

mda wrote: post #520
sleavey wrote: post #497

I don't know what everyone's problem was with Firefox. I never noticed significant slow down with the browser, or at least the slow down I saw I blamed on Javascript bloat on websites these days (it started around the time Bootstrap and jQuery really took off). I was even running Adblock+ / later uBlock, had lots of tabs open all the time and browsed heavy websites. I remember reading that comic that Google made to d…

It was slow, janky unresponsive compared to Chrome. Also security was much weaker. I think they addressed some of the issues now.

I agree with the GP -- I never noticed this in Firefox and years back I was surprised to learn after the fact that Chrome had come to dominate in market share. Was Firefox less performant on Windows or something? I never really got what people were complaining about as a user of Firefox on Linux...

However, the new beta is purely awesome. I don't think I've ever been so excited about a new software version release! What a fantastic validation of Rust too in the process.

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