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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by forapurpose »

cgag wrote: post #210
forapurpose wrote: post #97

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> They have a lot of money in the bank. Donations are a drop in the bucket What is the basis for these statements? Mozilla's budget is far less than its competitors, Google, Apple, and Microsoft; I expect they could find good uses for a little more.

They've got 1000+ employees (in 2015 at least). I don't imagine them having more money really helping anything. edit: in response to fabrice's comment about other orgs, checkout http://www.givewell.org/

> They've got 1000+ employees (in 2015 at least). I don't imagine them having more money really helping anything.

I don't follow that argument; the evidence seems inconclusive. That's not a lot of people for a software company developing multiple products (and in 2015 they still were developing FirefoxOS), including one as complex and fast-moving as a major web browser, as well as furthering other missions.

Do you know how many work on Firefox, compared with Chrome, IE, and Safari? What are the budgets for the other browsers and for Firefox? That would be evidence that would be applicable.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by pivotal »

andrew3726 wrote: post #323
criddell wrote: post #280

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I was actually thinking about switching to Chrome because of GMail (or rather Inbox). When I open Inbox in Firefox, it can take 20 to 30 seconds for the cursor to stop spinning and I have a 300 Mbps connection.

on which firefox version? have you tried nightly?

I've been running Nightly and experienced the same thing with inbox. If I attempt to interact with it before fully loaded, inbox will freeze up for minutes at a time. Love everything else about nightly, this is my biggest issue.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by nine_k »

nly wrote: post #332
agumonkey wrote: post #150

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The amount of work, the extent for how long they've been doing so, all relative to the funding they got.. it's even painful to think about. Chrome shadowed them overnight, had Google infinite wallet and started from scratch. Mozilla became the old slug.. Since then they got Rust off ground, servo yielding good fruits, firefox cool n quiet. Once again kudos.

Chrome wasn't started from scratch. From day 1 it was built on top of the legacy laid by WebKit, which in turn was built on top of the huge amount of work done under the KHTML project. v8 and sandboxing were its crown jewels. If Apple hadn't open-sourced WebKit, it's unlikely Chrome would have happened.

I think KHTML, as a part of KDE, was open from the start?

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Post by clircle »

andrew3726 wrote: post #327
nextos wrote: post #256

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Firefox beta is very nice. My only (big) regret is that APIs that make Vimperator work are getting phased out. I can't live without Vimperator.

Well, there's vimium-ff [1] which works pretty good for me. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/

I am using this addon, but I'm having a hard time with it. I wish you could disable smooth scrolling when using "j" and "k"

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by khc »

ATsch wrote: post #103
hdhzy wrote: post #51

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Not to mention Firefox for Android that supports extensions (uBlock etc.).

Unfortunately, for me at least, it's not a viable option. Firefox on android still feels significantly more sluggish than chrome. Plus, googles questionable business practice of embedding chrome into many apps, while making opening links very fast, adds another three clicks to someone not using chrome.

The chrome embedding is in theory cross browser compatible. Firefox nightly supports the API. It's still possible for the embedding app to hardcode to chrome (which the Google app seems to do) but the Android developer page recommends the cross browser approach

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Post by rhelmer »

tmrmn wrote: post #12

I tried to like the new Firefox, maybe I didn't give it a fair chance, but it instantly disappointed me.I opened 5 gifs in new tabs and CPU usage rushed to 100% an all cores for half a minute. But often it's the small things that make or break it. For me it was that HTML5 videos don't fullscreen to a new workspace on macOS like they do in Chrome or Safari.

That sounds pretty odd... if you've used previous versions of Firefox on this device you might try refreshing:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-a...

If it still happens and you want to dig into it a little further the profiler at http://perf-html.io/ allows you to gather and dig into + share details that can help fix.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by nine_k »

ATsch wrote: post #103
hdhzy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention Firefox for Android that supports extensions (uBlock etc.).

Unfortunately, for me at least, it's not a viable option. Firefox on android still feels significantly more sluggish than chrome. Plus, googles questionable business practice of embedding chrome into many apps, while making opening links very fast, adds another three clicks to someone not using chrome.

You can set Firefox as the default browser ("always use this app", not "once"), and the number of clicks becomes the same.

For instance, it takes me exactly one click to open a link from the HN app I'm using in Firefox.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by andrew3726 »

clircle wrote: post #344
andrew3726 wrote: post #327

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Well, there's vimium-ff [1] which works pretty good for me. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/

I am using this addon, but I'm having a hard time with it. I wish you could disable smooth scrolling when using "j" and "k"

Not on a pc right now, but there may be an option for that? Not entirely sure.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by Spivak »

digi_owl wrote: post #190
remir wrote: post #157

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Firefox was better than IE, but eventually, Chrome became better than Firefox for a majority of people. Silent auto-update, anti-phishing, sandboxing, extensions that "just worked". It also came with it's own flash plug-in, which was great for non-technical people back when Flash was relevant. Chrome did a lot of things right and for a while, it was the browser I installed on friends and family PCs because it was tro…

Well that, and paying every adware from here to eternity to bundle a Chrome installer...

And sticking 'Google service X is better with Chrome' on all of their sites probably didn't hurt either.
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