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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#161

Am I the only one here who thinks that nothing can beat the Chrome debugger ? Nothing comes even close. It's a different story if you are just browsing, like the 95% or more of the internet consumers.

While it's true the firefox debugger is lacking in certain areas, it's also better than chrome in others. Debugging CSS animations is much easier in firefox, but firefox lacks a way to look at websocket packets. One thing I like about firefox is that its debugger is a just a React webapp : https://github.com/devtools-html/debugger.html . So it's fairly easy to add to it !

There's also the grid layout debugger and a bunch of other stuff.

If you go to the devtools settings you can add a lot of cool tools to the main pane including a canvas debugger and some other useful stuff.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#162
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention Firefox for Android that supports extensions (uBlock etc.).

I now use Firefox Focus as default html viewer for links. Very good.

Firefox focus is my mobile browser of choice to just look up a fact. No ads, cookies or trackers and bins your history on closing.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#164
post #30

Boy, I _really_ didn't want to swap to Chrome. I'd held on through about a year ago, even despite knowing it was slower, a memory hog, and so on; at least this way, _someone_ on my team was viewing our site in FF and would notice discrepancies. I hated to let Google manage yet another aspect of my life. But as some point, too much was too much. Unable to bear vanilla, Google-owned Chrome, I ended up in (closed-source…

Profits pay your salary, commie.

I think you're joking but it's the third time I heard someone say something like this today, so... profits don't pay your salary, your work pays for it.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#166

There are certain legacy extensions I simply cannot live without. Tab Tree is one. Are there any routes to move forward with legacy extensions?

I don't know about Tab Tree, but the popular Tree Style Tabs extension is now a WebExtension that is compatible with Firefox 57+.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

https://www.ghacks.net/2017/09/27/tree-style-tab-is-a-webext...

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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post #9

I was very critical of Mozilla in the past about all their "science projects" like Rust. While I appreciate Rust, I thought it was wrong for Mozilla to be wasting resources on it, instead of focusing on Firefox. I was so harsh with them only because I strongly believe that Firefox is my only hope for a free web. But then I tried 57, and I must admit, boy was I wrong. This thing is fast! I haven't stopped recommending…

So you are one of those that "Open Web" == performance only and you look the other way on things like EME, Pocket, and various other things that lower Privacy and betray the very foundation of the "Open Web"

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#168
post #30

Boy, I _really_ didn't want to swap to Chrome. I'd held on through about a year ago, even despite knowing it was slower, a memory hog, and so on; at least this way, _someone_ on my team was viewing our site in FF and would notice discrepancies. I hated to let Google manage yet another aspect of my life. But as some point, too much was too much. Unable to bear vanilla, Google-owned Chrome, I ended up in (closed-source…

Profits pay your salary, commie.

Keep your bootlicking on topic at least. If the company is for-profit and the software is free, you are definitely sacrificing your privacy.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#169
post #26

SeaMonkey (mozilla suite) is the only web browser I have ever truly enjoyed using. I use the browser, email client, irc client, address book, and calendar every single day. Extremely disappointed that Mozilla has basically given a big middle finger to the SeaMonkey/Thunderbird (comm-central) communities with the removal of XUL/XPCOM add-ons, necessity of multi-process, introduction of webextensions, removal of suppor…

> show me a single Persona that doesn't look like shit https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/herbal-guitar... — especially with the new Photon UI (57)

ehh I know taste is subjective, but (on Win10, at least) I find this very very ugly. latest nightly.

https://i.imgur.com/z3cM8ve.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Oa875od.jpg

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

#170

The only thing that is keeping me on Chrome is buttery-smooth gestures (swipe left / right to go to previous / next page) on a MBP touchpad. If they have that built in I'd probably switch.

Also, Chrome has proper two finger pinch zooming on touchscreens. Firefox just simulates ctrl+scroll wheel, which is 1. slow and 2. not nearly as useful for the user. But that's not something I use often, I gladly switched over to Firefox again, this new version is really something.
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