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Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by wyager »

amelius wrote: post #112

As an outsider, it's strange that nobody here seems to question whether the referendum really makes sense. Forgetting about Catalonia for a moment, isn't it fundamentally amoral that a part of the country where prosperity has (by mere chance) concentrated suddenly wants to split off? Isn't this taking wealth-inequality to the next level? Of course the people in a prosperous part of the country want to split off. Abso…

It's immoral to forcibly drag people down when they'd do better on their own. The crab mentality is awful.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by Javimoreno »

bmelton wrote: post #146
faragon wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not correct. In mother tongue terms, 55% of population in Catalonia has the Spanish as his tongue (mother/habitual tongue), and 35% Catalan. The "economic power" is in hands of Catalan-"ethnic" people, though. Source (official): https://www.idescat.cat/pub/?id=ed&lang=en "The first casualty when war comes is truth".

If I'm recalling correctly from NPR this morning, nearly 100% of Catalan people under the age of 40 speak Catalan, while very few over the age of 40 do. This is the result of the language having been made illegal, then not illegal, then taught predominately by the school systems. Is it possible the 55% who speak Spanish primarily fall along those demographic lines? Is it also possible that some portion of that 55% sp…

100% of us speak Spanish and actually it's very common to use both languages in a conversation when more than two persons are involved :) it's just natural for most of us. Actually I learned Catalan when I was 18 so I usually speak in Spanish and it is not a problem at all... And I'm very proud of being bilingual. In any case I would love to be able to express better myself in English :)

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by lfam »

sampo wrote: post #115
QAPereo wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair however, it was known how the war would proceed before the outset! In the words of General Sherman: You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, t…

> the wealthy landowners were facing the extinction of their wealth... so they started a war As someone who doesn't know much about American history: What happened to the wealth of those Southern landowners after the war? Did they get to keep it?

Much of the "wealth" was the people they enslaved, so they did not get to keep it. The American Civil War is seen as a huge and enduring economic loss (but moral gain) for the southern states.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by logfromblammo »

sampo wrote: post #115
QAPereo wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair however, it was known how the war would proceed before the outset! In the words of General Sherman: You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, t…

> the wealthy landowners were facing the extinction of their wealth... so they started a war As someone who doesn't know much about American history: What happened to the wealth of those Southern landowners after the war? Did they get to keep it?

Some of it. Many of those who survived lost a good portion of their capital. But they kept title to their land, and used that leverage, voting power, and racist solidarity over time to claw back much of what they had previously enjoyed from exploitation of the emancipated slaves.

The South was still devastated by the war. But being largely agrarian to begin with, loss of capital wasn't quite as hard a blow as losing a factory.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by utnick »

A possibly simpler solution would be to not have assigned places to vote that are based on your ID & DOB.

Just vote at the polling place most convenient to you, and announce available polling places on posters around town, or facebook & twitter if you prefer.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by pvaldes »

kristiandupont wrote: post #109
pvaldes wrote: post #107

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And if my children would want to commit suicide, steal and crash cars, or enter in a sect; who am I to deny them such reasonable demands? ... their loving father or something? for Pete's sake, you, bad parent, they have rights!, and politicians that advise them well! Break the law, my minions, is funny (Specially to me, when I'll run with your money and deny to even know you... fools).

So you are arguing that this is solely for Cataluñas own sake and that they don't know themselves what they are doing so Spain must protect them?

Dunno... Is the duty of the government from your nation to protect you?.

(tip: the correct answer starts with Y, but not for the spurious reasons that you claim. Is because, as citizen of your country, you have some constitutional rights. No matter if you are super-smart or a frozen cabbage sending your 11yo children to a warfield). Any nation must try to protect their citizens all the time (even from themselves if were the case). Spain is not different in that sense to any other country. Sometimes is not possible, sadly.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by nemo1618 »

diggan wrote: post #8

"it is nearly-impossible for any actor to block access to this content because it is replicated around the network automatically, using peer-to-peer encrypted connections that would be very hard to identify and block at the ISP level. " It's right that the connections are encrypted, but it's NOT correct to say that content is automatically replicated (but it's a common misconception). Instead, content who is wanted b…

I noticed that you're an IPFS dev living in Catalunya -- did you have a hand in persuading the government to use IPFS? Pretty cool if so.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by icebraining »

jopsen wrote: post #79
codewithcheese wrote: post #18

It seems shocking that Spain a member of the EU is resorting to these tactics. Can you discuss some of their justifications for doing so?

At first yeah, I'm surprised too. Is the Catalan government a private organization? Or is it technically a part of the Spanish state. Private organizations can organize, fund, and promote whatever referendums they want. And the Spanish govt. would just say they don't recognize the result. But if the organizer is not a private organization, but instead a public institution, then it's likely abuse of authority and fund…

The Catalan government is the government of the autonomous region of Catalonia. So, I'd say "neither". They are a public institution, but their authority comes from the people, not from the central state.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by euyyn »

QML wrote: post #63
panarky wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Catalan officials can just distribute the hash of the main page file, and everyone else can be sure that all content linked from that file has been published by the catalan authorities. How does the hash of the main page guarantee that content linked from that page is authentic?

If the Spanish government wants to redirect or modify the contents of the page, then you would get a different hash than the one provided by Catalan officials.

How do IPFS links work, such that modification of what they point to modifies the hash of the document where the link is?
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