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Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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Re: Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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If all you have is a cryptocurrency, then I don't think you have anything that interesting. They've proven useful for buying drugs, but beyond that they've not created many new business opportunities. I don't have an exhaustive knowledge of cryptos, but Ethereum is extensible which is interesting. GNU came out with a crypto that they say is unsuited for illegal activities. Being even more secure than Bitcoin just mak…

« beyond that they've not created many new business opportunities » What an understatement. As of 2 years ago, at least 729 Bitcoin businesses were created¹, received $1 billion in investments², and employed thousands of persons. ¹ https://venturescannerinsights.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/the-... ² http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/02/technology/bitcoin-1-billion...

Investments are the opposite of what I'm talking about. Where are the returns? What are the new businesses? If you throw a million dollars into a hole, you can't say the useless hole industry is a million dollar idea. If you build a new railroad line, tell me what cities it connects, not how much people have spent building it. I'm well aware there's interest in bitcoin. But the only industry, besides itself, that it's revolutionized is drugs. And it doesn't offer a way to grow, there's no innovating on bitcoin. There's innovating on crypto, and because of that it's that innovation that has the potential to matter. Fine, it's private. Is that it? That's not enough.

Re: Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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In case people don't open the link or miss the disclosure: Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in Zcash Company, the for-profit entity supporting zcash's development.

but does Snowden have any stake?

We wouldn't know if he did

Re: Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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Why does anyone care what Snowden thinks about crypto currency? He was a SharePoint administrator. I don't understand why his opinion is relevant. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for his sacrifice, and I think he deserves to be pardoned.

To be fair, Snowden wasn't endorsing Zcash based on his own cryptographic or security expertise, he was responding in agreement to a tweet regarding the cryptographic background of the Zcash developers with a general statement that privacy is important with regard to cryptocurrencies[0].

The primary reason anyone cares what Snowden thinks is his celebrity - it should be a non-story, although the Twitter thread is an interesting read.

[0]https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/913544739542241282

Re: Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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If all you have is a cryptocurrency, then I don't think you have anything that interesting. They've proven useful for buying drugs, but beyond that they've not created many new business opportunities. I don't have an exhaustive knowledge of cryptos, but Ethereum is extensible which is interesting. GNU came out with a crypto that they say is unsuited for illegal activities. Being even more secure than Bitcoin just mak…

> They've proven useful for buying drugs, but beyond that they've not created many new business opportunities.

The Ransomware business model has really taken off as well.

Re: Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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Why does anyone care what Snowden thinks about crypto currency? He was a SharePoint administrator. I don't understand why his opinion is relevant. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for his sacrifice, and I think he deserves to be pardoned.

Before he was known for the NSA leaks he was still a privacy activist who helped teach people about cryptography. It's not totally unrelated, especially since Zcash's selling point is that it offers more privacy than Bitcoin. https://www.forbes.com/sites/runasandvik/2014/05/27/that-one...

>"Before he was known for the NSA leaks he was still a privacy activist ..."

So he was a privacy activist while he worked at the NSA? Isn't this a bit like being a healthcare activist and working for McDonalds?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before he was known for the NSA leaks he was still a privacy activist who helped teach people about cryptography. It's not totally unrelated, especially since Zcash's selling point is that it offers more privacy than Bitcoin. https://www.forbes.com/sites/runasandvik/2014/05/27/that-one...

>"Before he was known for the NSA leaks he was still a privacy activist ..." So he was a privacy activist while he worked at the NSA? Isn't this a bit like being a healthcare activist and working for McDonalds?

Well, we all know how well that worked out!

Re: Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative'

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Why does anyone care what Snowden thinks about crypto currency? He was a SharePoint administrator. I don't understand why his opinion is relevant. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for his sacrifice, and I think he deserves to be pardoned.

Before he was known for the NSA leaks he was still a privacy activist who helped teach people about cryptography. It's not totally unrelated, especially since Zcash's selling point is that it offers more privacy than Bitcoin. https://www.forbes.com/sites/runasandvik/2014/05/27/that-one...

ZCash is only as secure as you trust 9 people and their ceremony. There's gotta be a way to do consensus about zero-knowledge proofs that's a little more... you know ... decentralized.

https://petertodd.org/2016/cypherpunk-desert-bus-zcash-trust...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6a26rh/peter_todd_h...

Before you guys start saying, banks don't trust Bitcoin either because transactions are controlled by like 5 mining pools and the occasional lucky lottery winner. If they blacklist your address, your "permissionless" currency starts looking a lot more like a frozen bank account.

There are better ways :)

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