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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by Sylos »

proactivesvcs wrote: post #42

Give Firefox another chance, after Mozilla recently announced opt-out telemetry? Give them another chance now that they're siding with the likes of privacy-ignorant Microsoft? The same vendor that keeps bolting on features that seem irrelevant to its user base, such as "assumed touch", app store etc? Surely one would only offer Mozilla another chance once they have extended an olive branch, rather than a closed-circu…

They did not announce opt-out telemetry, they started a discussion on the topic.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by r3bl »

tmrmn wrote: post #12

I tried to like the new Firefox, maybe I didn't give it a fair chance, but it instantly disappointed me.I opened 5 gifs in new tabs and CPU usage rushed to 100% an all cores for half a minute. But often it's the small things that make or break it. For me it was that HTML5 videos don't fullscreen to a new workspace on macOS like they do in Chrome or Safari.

Hey, if you've tried the beta or nightly versions, you can't expect them to be stable until the enter the stable version.

If you've tried the stable version, the stable version is still one version behind the changes that are coming.

I honestly recommend giving it a go again in two months.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by ashark »

nameless912 wrote: post #21

The battery usage on MacOS has been atrocious in Firefox 57. Has anyone else had this problem? Am I doing something wrong?

That's too bad. Battery on my work MacBook (and making my whole system beachball constantly, even with only a handful of tabs open) is what got me to switch from Firefox to Chrome ~6 years ago, and from there to Safari for even better battery life (and avoiding Google).

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by kenhwang »

quesera wrote: post #58
Spivak wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those aren't changing, the new feature, "Containers", is like having multiple isolated browser sessions running concurrently. So you can organize your tabs by purpose, isolate sensitive accounts, or just be logged into both your Facebook/Google/Twitter accounts at the same time.

The confusion is reasonable though -- your description above is exactly how I use Firefox Profiles today (and for many years). What does Containers add? If the only answer is "a more convenient UI", then that's good enough for me!

It's not quite a new profile since the container retains all your configuration and extensions and a profile doesn't.

It's more similar to a private browsing session, except things aren't forgotten, and you can have as many as you like. And they're tab level so you can treat them they same way you would a tab.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by WorldMaker »

teleproto wrote: post #28
rightos wrote: post #2

I was extremely skeptical of all the changes they were doing - I said it myself 100 times, "they're just building a Chrome clone, they're killing all the features I like in favor of speed". But here I am, running Nightly because holy shit this thing flies. Their work has paid off and they're not even done yet. Webrender is coming, it's not quite stable enough for daily use yet (mostly just graphics glitching and inte…

One wonders why all the UI issues weren't solved long ago. Good that they're fixing them now, but what were they waiting for to decide to do it? (Rendering performance is a separate topic, that's been waiting on rust/servo.)

My outside perspective is that as with any other major project, backwards compatibility and the momentum of old code/bugs.

I don't think they've been "waiting" to solve the UI issues: it's been years of slowly deprecating old systems like XUL, and implementing new systems like e10s. That's been years of anger or at least angst for extension developers, as much backwards compatibility was broken one piece at a time.

The fruit after all that hard work is the new UI.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by sevensor »

Firefox's strength was originally that technically astute people liked it and people who saw them liking it followed suit. They lost a lot of geek mindshare to Chrome when Chrome hit the scene, but I see this as a return to roots. People who know enough to understand the difference, see that very interesting things are happening with Firefox, and in addition it's not offered by the world's biggest advertising company.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by r3bl »

neves wrote: post #41

I was using developer extension and it disabled all of my beloved plugins. I hurried back to the "normal version". How is the update of the plugins to the new browser? Will it go live with uBlock, Tree tabs etc?

This is the version that breaks the legacy plugins and switches over to WebExtensions API.

Add-on developer are still catching up, but I think that the majority will be ready for the 57 release in November. I tried switching maybe two weeks ago, and I couldn't, simply because of one extension that wasn't ported.

Looking around, and I was able to find out that they've been working on it and two days ago I've installed the testing version of the add-on and made a complete switch to Nightly.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by Viper007Bond »

justboxing wrote: post #6

Am I the only one here who thinks that nothing can beat the Chrome debugger ? Nothing comes even close. It's a different story if you are just browsing, like the 95% or more of the internet consumers.

The ones that are packaged into the Developer Edition of Firefox are amazing. I'd say even better.
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