Was the one trick superhuman performance at Go? Was it human-level image recognition? Or was it style transfer? I didn't make it to the end of the article; maybe it turns out the trick was automated captioning or translation.
Is AI Riding a One-Trick Pony?
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#42Real intelligence is whatever computers can't do yet. Some think this is because we have such an impoverished grasp of intelligence, that it's only when we see a computer actually do it that we realize it doesn't really represent intelligence (logical deduction and inference, rudimentary natural language understanding, expert systems, chess, speech recognition, image recognition). Machines and tools that perform bett…
I'd cast it in a less malicious light. It's not so much that we do the goal post moving to keep ourselves in the job of knowing things other people don't know, I think. The goal posts keep moving themselves. We know why a spear pierces better than hands, why wheels move faster than legs. But for every layer of the brain we peel back, every dramatic success in cognitive science, linguistics, psychology, AI... it never…
I think you missed the joke in the second paragraph.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The current AI seems to be pretty good at pattern recognition. There’s plenty of active research in higher-level “cognition” like decision theories and semantics, so I don’t think it’s crazy to believe good results will emerge there in the next few decades.
>There’s plenty of active research in higher-level “cognition” like decision theories and semantics, so I don’t think it’s crazy to believe good results will emerge there in the next few decades. Interesting. Can someone elaborate about this?
I would start by looking at what these people are researching:
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you please define this term "cloud technology"? I always thought it was a marketing term for "the internet", which then would be just a bunch of servers, vms, and containers; all of which we have had for over 20 years.
What is novel about "the internet"? We've been sending data over telegraph wires for nearly 200 years. The Internet is just someone else's cable.
It's turtles all the way down to the Big Bang.
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#45ML is riding a one-trick pony.
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#46Real intelligence is whatever computers can't do yet. Some think this is because we have such an impoverished grasp of intelligence, that it's only when we see a computer actually do it that we realize it doesn't really represent intelligence (logical deduction and inference, rudimentary natural language understanding, expert systems, chess, speech recognition, image recognition). Machines and tools that perform bett…
The unrestricted Turing test has been around since the 1950s as a test that hasn't changed.
No one is moving the goalposts, I think it's rather the opposite. Every ten years computers learn a new trick or two and people rush to claim that this time, it's intelligent.
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#47When is all this image recognition technology going to make it to my phone? I have thousands of pictures in my phone, and scrolling back to find a memory takes me forever and half the time I can't find it. If I had a SQL interface of sorts I could easily say things like `select pictures containing fish where date > 2 years ago' I'd like to just say "Siri, show me all pictures of me on a boat from 2 years ago", but I…
I think Google Photos does that.
Google Photos does it, and does it well. My favorite trick (though largely useless) is to search "people sitting" or "two people sitting."
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#48When is all this image recognition technology going to make it to my phone? I have thousands of pictures in my phone, and scrolling back to find a memory takes me forever and half the time I can't find it. If I had a SQL interface of sorts I could easily say things like `select pictures containing fish where date > 2 years ago' I'd like to just say "Siri, show me all pictures of me on a boat from 2 years ago", but I…
The iOS Photos app can already do this. It scans your photos on-device with a subject classifier. I just said "Hey Siri, show me pictures of dogs in my photos library" and it successfully showed me (completely untagged) photos of dogs that I've taken on my phone.
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#49Didn't read article responding purely to the title:
AI is a three-trick pony -Regression -Classification -Clustering Nothing more and nothing less.
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#50The most relevant part of the article:
David Duvenaud, an assistant professor in the same department as Hinton at the University of Toronto, says deep learning has been somewhat like engineering before physics. “Someone writes a paper and says, ‘I made this bridge and it stood up!’ Another guy has a paper: ‘I made this bridge and it fell down—but then I added pillars, and then it stayed up.’ Then pillars are a hot new thing. Someone comes up with arches, and it’s like, ‘Arches are great!’” With physics, he says, “you can actually understand what’s going to work and why.” Only recently, he says, have we begun to move into that phase of actual understanding with artificial intelligence.
Hinton himself says, “Most conferences consist of making minor variations … as opposed to thinking hard and saying, ‘What is it about what we’re doing now that’s really deficient? What does it have difficulty with? Let’s focus on that.’”