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New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by skj »

ryandrake wrote: post #14

As someone who grew up in the NYC area, and who is currently feeling the crushing suffocation of SF Bay Area cost of living, I'd love to go back. But aren't the problems similar? In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours--not much different than in SF. Plus, my understanding is that back east, tech is what companies use rather than what companies make, so at most co…

If you can afford a child's closet in SF, you can afford a small house in NJ that is far closer than the 2+ hours you'd need to spend each way from PA.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by santaclaus »

Swizec wrote: post #5
vdnkh wrote: post #2

I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

As someone living in SF I’ve been seriously eyeing NYC for a while now. It just seems like an overall better city. The roads are better, the people seem more varied, there’s even more things to do outside work, there are seasons (god I miss weather), and the tech scene is probably almost as strong. But are there many startups? It almost seems these days more startups are coming out of Europe than out of NYC.

> The roads are better

Are you planning to drive in Manhattan? Car ownership in NYC is a world of hurt.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by santaclaus »

brentm wrote: post #13
lobotryas wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may want to consider a gentle reintroduction to "weather", especially East Coast winters. Snow is fun when you're on a ski vacation. Decidedly less so when it's wet and getting whipped into your face by the wind as you trudge to work.

The winters in NYC really aren't that bad. Yes occasionally it snows but the storms that dump inches of snow are infrequent enough to be novel. When it's cold it's cold but if you're wearing the right jacket that isn't bad either.

> The winters in NYC really aren't that bad.

I still have nightmares about those hidden pools of half frozen brown sludge that accumulate at street corners that turn your shoes pitch black if you accidentally step in one!

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by santaclaus »

ryandrake wrote: post #14

As someone who grew up in the NYC area, and who is currently feeling the crushing suffocation of SF Bay Area cost of living, I'd love to go back. But aren't the problems similar? In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours--not much different than in SF. Plus, my understanding is that back east, tech is what companies use rather than what companies make, so at most co…

> In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours

An hour on Metro North gets you into reasonably priced home areas.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by kmicklas »

ryandrake wrote: post #14

As someone who grew up in the NYC area, and who is currently feeling the crushing suffocation of SF Bay Area cost of living, I'd love to go back. But aren't the problems similar? In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours--not much different than in SF. Plus, my understanding is that back east, tech is what companies use rather than what companies make, so at most co…

> In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours--not much different than in SF.

Why do you want to own a home so badly? Most people in NYC are perfectly happy to rent. But if you plan on staying in the city long term and have a tech salary you can definitely buy and save money eventually.

> Plus, my understanding is that back east, tech is what companies use rather than what companies make, so at most companies you'll be in a supporting role rather than building the products.

The first part is definitely kind of true, the second part depends. If you're really passionate about tech as an industry then yes you might like SF more, but if you care about products that provide value to everyday people and not Uber for X then maybe you'd like NYC companies more.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by dmode »

ryandrake wrote: post #14

As someone who grew up in the NYC area, and who is currently feeling the crushing suffocation of SF Bay Area cost of living, I'd love to go back. But aren't the problems similar? In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours--not much different than in SF. Plus, my understanding is that back east, tech is what companies use rather than what companies make, so at most co…

If you are looking to relocate, why go to a place that offers the same challenges. Isn't going to Denver or Portland or Seattle a better option ?

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by Swizec »

santaclaus wrote: post #22
Swizec wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone living in SF I’ve been seriously eyeing NYC for a while now. It just seems like an overall better city. The roads are better, the people seem more varied, there’s even more things to do outside work, there are seasons (god I miss weather), and the tech scene is probably almost as strong. But are there many startups? It almost seems these days more startups are coming out of Europe than out of NYC.

> The roads are better Are you planning to drive in Manhattan? Car ownership in NYC is a world of hurt.

No I'm just tired of potholes being more dangerous to me on a Boosted Board than bad drivers. There's so much money in this city, why can't we use some of it to have better roads than 3rd world countries?

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by vijayr »

ryandrake wrote: post #14

As someone who grew up in the NYC area, and who is currently feeling the crushing suffocation of SF Bay Area cost of living, I'd love to go back. But aren't the problems similar? In order to afford to own a home I'd likely have to live in Pennsylvania and commute 2+ hours--not much different than in SF. Plus, my understanding is that back east, tech is what companies use rather than what companies make, so at most co…

I used to live in Brooklyn (quite far) and a colleague in Stamford. Most days it used to take him less time to get to Manhattan than me! You don't have to live in Manhattan - there are relatively cheaper places if you don't mind an hour or so in the train, including NJ/CT and Queens/Brooklyn etc.

One very good thing about NYC is the subway. It might be crowded, dirty etc but it runs almost all times. I remember during severe winter and during Sandy, very few trains were canceled and that too just a handful of days.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by riot504 »

brentm wrote: post #15
vdnkh wrote: post #2

I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

What kind of events would you recommend for someone trying to get more involved in the NYC community? I've been in Brooklyn for a while but work remotely and more or less exist outside of the tech community but would like to get involved.

I have only spent a week in NYC but this place was amazing, granted I am a jazz enthusiast so potentially biased.

https://www.smallslive.com/

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Post by vdnkh »

brentm wrote: post #15
vdnkh wrote: post #2

I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

What kind of events would you recommend for someone trying to get more involved in the NYC community? I've been in Brooklyn for a while but work remotely and more or less exist outside of the tech community but would like to get involved.

I like the BoroJS family of meetups. Their schtick is "people focused" javascript. Good talks, venues, and interesting company. But sometimes it can feel a bit cliquey because the organizers are obviously good friends.

http://borojs.com/

Oops, I thought you said "meetups" not stuff outside of tech. I personally like to climb, bike, and visit breweries. Biking is fun because you can stop off and explore wherever you feel like.

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