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How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The spanish constituion explicitly states that Spain is an indivisible country. Hence, the Constituional Court (that is elected by the parliament) has ruled out that any referendum about independence is illegal. At this point, the government says that both them and the judiciary powers are just defending the democratic rules, and Catalonia's government is the one at fault for all this hassle. The problem is that it i…

> and Catalonia's government is the one at fault for all this hassle. My interpretation of GP's comment was about the draconian approach towards silencing internet activity. Is it believed the raiding of ISPs, outright blocking of websites, etc is the fault of Catalonia's government or Spain's?

Internet activity that promotes illegal actions is already illegal, and there are laws in spain allowing for these raids and closures.

Edit: "Getting away with it" is mostly a question of "which side are you on?". Independentists and most non-government supporters think that what's going on is outrageous, whereas government supporters are totally fine with it.

These laws where passed mainly to fight against piracy (think thepiratebay). Of course the excuse was that it was a tool against terrorism and pedophilia though ;)

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Author here. I've tried to keep the article as apolitical as possible, while giving some context to provide the setting. Anyway, I'm very interested in knowing if the used crypto is sound or not, and stirring a discussion around possible alternative approaches. Ask me anything if you want to know further!

> Catalan officials can just distribute the hash of the main page file, and everyone else can be sure that all content linked from that file has been published by the catalan authorities. How does the hash of the main page guarantee that content linked from that page is authentic?

If the Spanish government wants to redirect or modify the contents of the page, then you would get a different hash than the one provided by Catalan officials.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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I hope Mozilla shows leadership in adopting IPFS support in Firefox. I don't necessarily want it to adopt IPFS right now , but it should have a plan for when it thinks the project is "mature enough" to be adopted in a mainstream browser, but also it should be early enough that Firefox is the first to do it. Maybe Mozilla should even get involved early in IPFS so that it can shape the protocols the way it would prefer…

Should they also adopt Tor, Freenet, I2P, etc.? But I would give a thumbs up for Gopher support.

I would hope they adopt Tor at some point. That would be awesome. Why shouldn't they?

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the symbol of the "Guardia Civil", a spanish paramilitary force.

I'm not actually suggesting that they are fascists, similar symbolism is used in the US as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_(1920_statue)#... . And the phrase "E pluribus unum" on American money also has the same roots as the symbol. But it is amusing to me, because the idea behind the symbol is very authoritarian and fascist.

Fasces are supposed to represent the general concept of law and governance. Since law is ultimately always about forcing (some) people to to do something that they don't want to do, the symbol does have violent connotations, but I'd call that truth in advertising - another take on Mao's "all power comes out of a barrel of a gun". So, it is authoritarian in a sense that the generic notions of government and rule of law is authoritarian.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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I just left Barcelona a couple hours ago, the capital of Catalonia. Everywhere you look, Catalan flags, signs demanding 'democracia', demanding freedom. I'm told this is just normal for the region, but if this is normal then independence is eventual.

150 years after the US civil war, the confederate flag is still flying around. I wouldn't be to hasty to call it eventual.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The spanish constituion explicitly states that Spain is an indivisible country. Hence, the Constituional Court (that is elected by the parliament) has ruled out that any referendum about independence is illegal. At this point, the government says that both them and the judiciary powers are just defending the democratic rules, and Catalonia's government is the one at fault for all this hassle. The problem is that it i…

Governments usually do not like to give up the money making portions of their countries and neither does the population of the rest of the country. You never see a poor part of a country seceding (well, other than Quebec maybe).

Quebec never did secede though, and they're definitely not 'poor'.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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"it is nearly-impossible for any actor to block access to this content because it is replicated around the network automatically, using peer-to-peer encrypted connections that would be very hard to identify and block at the ISP level. Maybe China could do it, but Spain definitely cannot." How would China do it?

Probably the same way China banned WhatsApp earlier this week.
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