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Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by netcraft »

j_s wrote: post #23
netcraft wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can you elaborate on the in-memory capabilities you mention? My google searches aren't yielding anything.

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/memory-storage-engin... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10692398/how-do-i-make-a... https://www.google.com/search?q=mysql+in-memory maybe?

I'm aware of the memory capabilities of mysql in general, but the insinuation was that mysql had more capabilities of in-memory processing than postgres - I dont see anything in those links that are things that postgres cant do - although they may be implemented differently.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by mmanfrin »

yeukhon wrote: post #49
ppeetteerr wrote: post #38

Any time I hear that a Chinese company is investing in a product I use, it's as if the Chinese government is now part owner of it as well. This may be general paranoia, but given the latest crackdown on VPNs and privacy, I don't know that I want a foreign government with a significant stake in Alibaba have access to direct the future of MariaDB. Is anyone else feeling this?

If you look at Alibaba's investment portfolio [1], you will see Alibaba has invested in a number of popular US-based startups like Snapchat and Lyft, so are they owning part of Snapchat as much as other VCs (depending on the % of course). One can say about Google / Facebook / Amazon investing in startups and non-profits inevitably influence these organizations' directions; that's just the nature of any investments. W…

  China is the biggest creditor to the US national debt
Uh, no it ain't. Not even close. Domestic funds are the lions share, with Social Security Trust holding 2.5x what China does (2.8t vs 1.1t).

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by yeukhon »

mmanfrin wrote: post #52
yeukhon wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at Alibaba's investment portfolio [1], you will see Alibaba has invested in a number of popular US-based startups like Snapchat and Lyft, so are they owning part of Snapchat as much as other VCs (depending on the % of course). One can say about Google / Facebook / Amazon investing in startups and non-profits inevitably influence these organizations' directions; that's just the nature of any investments. W…

China is the biggest creditor to the US national debt Uh, no it ain't. Not even close. Domestic funds are the lions share, with Social Security Trust holding 2.5x what China does (2.8t vs 1.1t).

Uh, excuse me, can you check this?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/investing/china-us-debt-trea...

Do you want me to be more precise? Foreign creditor?

"The Treasury Department has ranked China as the biggest foreign creditor to the U.S. for the overwhelming majority of the past nine years. "

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by [deleted] »

yeukhon wrote: post #53
mmanfrin wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is the biggest creditor to the US national debt Uh, no it ain't. Not even close. Domestic funds are the lions share, with Social Security Trust holding 2.5x what China does (2.8t vs 1.1t).

Uh, excuse me, can you check this? http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/investing/china-us-debt-trea... Do you want me to be more precise? Foreign creditor? "The Treasury Department has ranked China as the biggest foreign creditor to the U.S. for the overwhelming majority of the past nine years. "

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Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by tkfu »

yeukhon wrote: post #53
mmanfrin wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is the biggest creditor to the US national debt Uh, no it ain't. Not even close. Domestic funds are the lions share, with Social Security Trust holding 2.5x what China does (2.8t vs 1.1t).

Uh, excuse me, can you check this? http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/investing/china-us-debt-trea... Do you want me to be more precise? Foreign creditor? "The Treasury Department has ranked China as the biggest foreign creditor to the U.S. for the overwhelming majority of the past nine years. "

"Biggest foreign creditor" and "biggest creditor" are worlds apart; it's not just about being more precise. More than two thirds of US debt is held domestically.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by jacquesm »

yeukhon wrote: post #53
mmanfrin wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is the biggest creditor to the US national debt Uh, no it ain't. Not even close. Domestic funds are the lions share, with Social Security Trust holding 2.5x what China does (2.8t vs 1.1t).

Uh, excuse me, can you check this? http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/investing/china-us-debt-trea... Do you want me to be more precise? Foreign creditor? "The Treasury Department has ranked China as the biggest foreign creditor to the U.S. for the overwhelming majority of the past nine years. "

foreign. That sense said just creditor without the 'foreign' bit.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by jacquesm »

jamesblonde wrote: post #41
gaius wrote: post #19

Wow. Monty made a cool billion from Sun. Why does he need external investors now? How can MariaDB possibly have blown through that epic fortune?

He only made 300m. Us other MySQL employees (about 250) shared crumbs for that purchase (VPs excepted). He screwed us, but he never had respect for us - "people are lazy and greedy" ( https://www.pythian.com/blog/mysql-ceo-marten-mickos-intervi... ) . Then he promised he would fix the mistake he made with Maria by being more generous. Ha.

Funny use of the word 'only'.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by vlunkr »

jjirsa wrote: post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

I think using Postgres would be completely valid (could be wrong though), the issue would be converting their code base, rather than any stability issue in pg.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by jordanlev »

ppeetteerr wrote: post #38

Any time I hear that a Chinese company is investing in a product I use, it's as if the Chinese government is now part owner of it as well. This may be general paranoia, but given the latest crackdown on VPNs and privacy, I don't know that I want a foreign government with a significant stake in Alibaba have access to direct the future of MariaDB. Is anyone else feeling this?

Yeah, would be better if a US company like Oracle were in charge of it ;)

(Not agreeing or disagreeing with you, just kind of funny/ironic that we're talking about a fork of an open source project that exists because of disagreement with the steward of MySQL... if Alibaba negatively impacts MariaDB, couldn't we just then move on to another fork. MylantaDB anyone?)

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Post by martin1975 »

ppeetteerr wrote: post #38

Any time I hear that a Chinese company is investing in a product I use, it's as if the Chinese government is now part owner of it as well. This may be general paranoia, but given the latest crackdown on VPNs and privacy, I don't know that I want a foreign government with a significant stake in Alibaba have access to direct the future of MariaDB. Is anyone else feeling this?

I'd be concerned if they got a sizable chunk of legislative/executive power... until that happens, I wouldn't worry.
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