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Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

#22
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting out of the business of having their own?

With Alibaba cloud, infrastructure like databases is their business. Take AWS Aurora and GCP Spanner as examples.

But it's also easier to sell a standard DB people already know vs a custom

(see (google) Bigtable vs (amazon) Postgres)

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In-memory capability, hiring pool of MySQL/MariaDB developers tends to be larger/wider, Galera cluster (M-M functionality), if the queries trend towards simplicity then MySQL/MariaDB tends to be more performant, Postgres can have issues with write amplification, etc. Uber (I know, I know) switched to MySQL, here are some reasons why: https://eng.uber.com/mysql-migration/

can you elaborate on the in-memory capabilities you mention? My google searches aren't yielding anything.

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/memory-storage-engin...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10692398/how-do-i-make-a...

https://www.google.com/search?q=mysql+in-memory

maybe?

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

#24
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Alibaba cloud, infrastructure like databases is their business. Take AWS Aurora and GCP Spanner as examples.

But it's also easier to sell a standard DB people already know vs a custom (see (google) Bigtable vs (amazon) Postgres)

Those aren't exactly comparable products - also, is it obvious which one sells better? Is it well known that amazon postgres sells like hotcakes?

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

#25
post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Has Postgres received tens of millions of dollars in funding?

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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post #25
post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Has Postgres received tens of millions of dollars in funding?

Yes, I think different companies invested that over the years. But perhaps more importantly it’s been 20+ years of development.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

#27
post #25
post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Has Postgres received tens of millions of dollars in funding?

Not sure about the funding, but it has been around for 20+ years. Maybe not tens of millions in VC funding, but it definitely has tens of millions of dollars worth of devs spending time on it.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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post #25
post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Has Postgres received tens of millions of dollars in funding?

If you assume an average 10 person years of development effort over the 20 year history of Postgres, absolutely.

20 years * LoadedLaborCost (USD$150k/personyr) * 10 people

=>USD$30m.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

#29
post #25
post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Has Postgres received tens of millions of dollars in funding?

I'd assume the amount of work contributed to PostgreSQL by people while being paid by companies to do so is substantial.

I think you could relate that to funding?

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

#30
post #25
post #18

Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ": Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars. That’s if things go extremely well. Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1. 0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Has Postgres received tens of millions of dollars in funding?

Likely through supporting organizations:

EnterpriseDB: $64.92M in 6 Rounds from 7 Investors https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/enterprisedb#/entity

Plus it is much more under development than 5-7 years.

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