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Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Probably because they don't use it: http://techstacks.io/alibaba

What's the reason nowadays to use MySQL/MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?

That question could be asked in a reversed fashion too. PostgreSQL is the favorite database here on HN (I prefer it too) but for a generic company out there MySQL/PostgreSQL are interchangeable. Won't really matter which one you choose and I think it's easier to hire people with MySQL experience.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Probably because they don't use it: http://techstacks.io/alibaba

What's the reason nowadays to use MySQL/MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?

Familiarity?

MySQL/MariaDB is pretty much the "standard" database that most programmer started with. At least in university.

So there is no point on using PosgreSQL if MariaDB fits the bill for them. Less learning curve, easy to hire for etc

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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What's the reason nowadays to use MySQL/MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?

Familiarity? MySQL/MariaDB is pretty much the "standard" database that most programmer started with. At least in university. So there is no point on using PosgreSQL if MariaDB fits the bill for them. Less learning curve, easy to hire for etc

Also the default database on most shared hosting, so anybody who got a start in web dev likely cut their teeth on MySQL.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Probably because they don't use it: http://techstacks.io/alibaba

What's the reason nowadays to use MySQL/MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?

In-memory capability, hiring pool of MySQL/MariaDB developers tends to be larger/wider, Galera cluster (M-M functionality), if the queries trend towards simplicity then MySQL/MariaDB tends to be more performant, Postgres can have issues with write amplification, etc.

Uber (I know, I know) switched to MySQL, here are some reasons why:

https://eng.uber.com/mysql-migration/

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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I'm curious what would be their motivation for investing so much in MariaDB when they already have their own? Hedging bets? Encouraging competition?

Getting out of the business of having their own?

With Alibaba cloud, infrastructure like databases is their business. Take AWS Aurora and GCP Spanner as examples.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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What's the reason nowadays to use MySQL/MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?

In-memory capability, hiring pool of MySQL/MariaDB developers tends to be larger/wider, Galera cluster (M-M functionality), if the queries trend towards simplicity then MySQL/MariaDB tends to be more performant, Postgres can have issues with write amplification, etc. Uber (I know, I know) switched to MySQL, here are some reasons why: https://eng.uber.com/mysql-migration/

can you elaborate on the in-memory capabilities you mention? My google searches aren't yielding anything.

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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Good move, will be good for the database for sure. I think of this article [0] every time someone says "why not just use ":

Rule 1: Developing a good DBMS requires 5-7 years and tens of millions of dollars.

That’s if things go extremely well.

Rule 2: You aren’t an exception to Rule 1.

0: http://www.dbms2.com/2013/03/18/dbms-development-marklogic-h...

Re: Alibaba is leading a $27M investment in MariaDB

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What's the reason nowadays to use MySQL/MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?

In-memory capability, hiring pool of MySQL/MariaDB developers tends to be larger/wider, Galera cluster (M-M functionality), if the queries trend towards simplicity then MySQL/MariaDB tends to be more performant, Postgres can have issues with write amplification, etc. Uber (I know, I know) switched to MySQL, here are some reasons why: https://eng.uber.com/mysql-migration/

Why Uber Engineering Switched from Postgres to MySQL | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12166585

Re: Why Uber Engineering Switched from Postgres to MySQL | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12179222

Why we lost Uber as a user | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12201353

> naming / pronunciation diversion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12201672

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