So this means they are not collecting Social Media Data on All Social Media Users?
I was wrong then. I should start using social media as I'm not U.S. emigrant.
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#12If they want to know what's in my social media feed they can just ask. 70% of it is Happy Birthday well wishes and the rest is making fun of our bonehead in chief.
I expect FB/Twitter will have a sudden growth surge of "new" users as folks make a SFW and NSFW profile. A lot of my military and government employee friends are creating twin personas, or just dropping social media completely.
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#13Not to suggest that this is okay to do to immigrants, (legal ones at that!) but the next step is clear. If this works well and remains unopposed, the average citizen will be targeted next.
The average citizen already is targeted. People have been voluntarily and involuntarily sharing their personal details, daily habits, purchases, and browsing habits for years. It's probably safe to say that a lot of government agencies and companies know more about you than you do yourself (or at least they have that data).
This move will be heavily criticized (as it should), but there's a false sense of security out there. Outfits like Palantir exist, Facebook and others have never been shy about tracking people without permission, and through public check ins people basically broadcast their physical location. In another thread yesterday someone was saying that they were a former FB employee and FB regularly purchased customer histories from Amazon and tied that to their own internal databases. That sounds very realistic.
It's always strange how upset the tech community gets about actions like this when most of the companies people work for are doing it, and that information is getting sent to the government through things like national security letters, anyway.
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#14It's hard to see how this will do anything besides generate a ton of false positives.
Or null results. What's to stop anyone from creating a secret profile and using a VPN (to avoid linking the terrorist persona's IP address with their main persona's IP address) just to talk to fellow terrorists?
Terrorists could even force every recruit to use a common, shared profile or just avoid popular social media altogether when needing to discuss terrorist acts.
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#15Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
I just finished reading the book The Circle[1] by (Dave Eggers) with my wife, which is about just that, making it illegal not to use social media. Though some of the characters were less intelligent than I am, and thus seemed unbelievable to me (a problem I have with real people too), I recommend the book.
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#16Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
Which is deeply disturbing - I really don't use FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc.
By virtue of my choice of parents and their choice of locale when I was born, this particular bit of tyranny (I use that word advisedly) won't hit me, but when every other country on earth follows suit...
Waiting for the services to pop up selling fake social accounts as cover for the Officially Socially Atypical types.
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#17Immigration visa is for those that seek permanent residence, while visitor visas are nonimmigrant visas?
Each time I see this news, the distiction isn't made clear if this is intended to be for everyone visiting the country, or part of the process when a person is seeking permanent residence.
cr1895: Thanks!
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#18Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
Maybe 50 should be the upper bound. I'm in my fifties and have never had any sort of social media account. Many of my high school and college classmates are similarly situated. None of the major social media platforms were founded before I was in my mid-forties, which is why there was never any incentive to start any accounts.
I enjoy getting older. It spares me a lot of drama.
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#19As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…
Well if you are not attempting to stay here then (if I understand this correctly) you will not need to release your social media information.
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#20Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
Exactly. This is a step (or more likely - leap) towards the bizarre future portrayed in Black Mirror episode "Nosedive".