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So that's basically the first privately-owned ICBM?

No, the current SpaceX rockets are ICBM enough. This is much harder - ICBM's don't need to land at ~0 m/s vertical speed, and if they carry nuclear warheads (are there conventional ICBMs at all?) they don't need ~1 m landing precision.

you could land a big freaking robot in pieces, or land a bunch of killer drones in enemy territory

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Musk says the ticket price would equal an economy international plane ticket. Back of the envelope calculation more or less confirming that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15362976

even if it cost multiples the cost of a concorde ticket, i'm sure some would want to fly from sydney to new york in one hour.

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can anyone think of scenarios where somebody has to be somewhere in an hour? what about making one of those the new airforce one?

Histories of financial crises include a fair bit of catching Concorde between London and New York. That's the only case I can think of that's urgent and serious enough to justify face-to-face talks where it's safe enough to have an unplanned international visit.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extrapolating very naively from SpaceX prices[1] for Falcon Heavy to low earth orbit suggests a ticket price of about $150,000, at $1500 per kg That is ignoring safety, and other pros and cons such as Falcon Heavy didn't fly yet, Space-X doesn't have a passenger module, frequency and economic scale of passenger operation, different flight profile from LEO, lack of regulatory framework, and so on [1] http://www.spacex…

"About the same as full fare economy" So in the low thousands. Incredible if true. https://www.instagram.com/p/BZnVfWxgdLe/

Impressive if they achieve that. The price point they need to reach though for this to be feasible is business class. As suggested by the NYShanghai route in the video, the major use for this would be distant business meetings that either have to be week long trips or video conferences. Instead they could be overnight or even day trips. Businesses have more buying power as well compared to consumers.

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can anyone think of scenarios where somebody has to be somewhere in an hour? what about making one of those the new airforce one?

> can anyone think of scenarios where somebody has to be somewhere in an hour?

Have you ever taken any long-haul flight? I guess some people don't mind, but I find it excruciating.

Few people have to be somewhere in an hour. But lots of people would love to.

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can anyone think of scenarios where somebody has to be somewhere in an hour? what about making one of those the new airforce one?

Histories of financial crises include a fair bit of catching Concorde between London and New York. That's the only case I can think of that's urgent and serious enough to justify face-to-face talks where it's safe enough to have an unplanned international visit.

i'm thinking this is the new concorde (not in failure)

Urgent signing and cancelling of business deals in person, or delivery of high tech expertise or knowledgable staff.

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