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Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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This is not actually true anymore, Fidelity has responded. Their pure index funds are extremely competitive with Vanguard.

Most of the major players have funds with expense ratios within a couple basis points of each other. When they're that close, picking the fund with the lowest expense ratio may not result in the best performance and other factors can dominate: - How well the fund is run, and how representative it is of the index. A fund with high trading costs may underperform. - Securities Lending policy, how risky it is and how muc…

EDIT: I was wrong. Please ignore the below incorrect content.

>In most cases, it wouldn't make sense to switch existing funds to another provider in a taxable account if switching would result in a large capital gain.

As long as the the funds track the same index then it's a Section 1031 like-kind exchange which does not trigger capital gains.

[0] https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/like-kind-exchanges-under-irc-c...

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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Vanguard is a mutual company. Whatever savings that they can extract from efficiency gains they pass along to their customer base. Also, Fidelity's index funds are loss leaders to retain funds that were flowing out to Vanguard.

> Vanguard is a mutual company. Whatever savings that they can extract from efficiency gains they pass along to their customer base. That's irrelevant if they those gains are less than a competitor's discounts. > Also, Fidelity's index funds are loss leaders to retain funds that were flowing out to Vanguard. So?

>So?

Loss leaders are by their nature unprofitable and thus will go away as soon as they're not required.

Suppose if Vanguard disappears, then Fidelity will hike their rates up.

On the other hand, if Fidelity disappears, Vanguard won't hike their rates up because they won't bite the hand that feeds them since it's their own hand.

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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Thank you for being a voice of reason in a domain that has increasingly become overrun by frauds and zealots. As someone who has been involved in blockchain research since 2011, it’s sad to see a promising technology (in limited use cases) turn into a buzzword thrown around by the many speculators and scam artists peddling vaporware and pumping crypto prices.

Yup: it's the Big Data hype train of 2013/2014 re-liveried and stopping soon at a station near you.

According to Gartner, blockchain has just passed the "Peak of Inflated Expectations". Next phase is "Trough of Disillusionnment".

http://www.gartner.com/smarterwithgartner/top-trends-in-the-...

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

#94
post #26

I like that the post mentions she's mined 200,000 Satoshis. Is this some kind of Bitcoin Shibboleth? I had to google it. It's about $8.

the base unit

a lot of trading is quoted in satoshis instead of "x thousandth fractions of a bitcoin"

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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post #91
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the major players have funds with expense ratios within a couple basis points of each other. When they're that close, picking the fund with the lowest expense ratio may not result in the best performance and other factors can dominate: - How well the fund is run, and how representative it is of the index. A fund with high trading costs may underperform. - Securities Lending policy, how risky it is and how muc…

EDIT: I was wrong. Please ignore the below incorrect content. >In most cases, it wouldn't make sense to switch existing funds to another provider in a taxable account if switching would result in a large capital gain. As long as the the funds track the same index then it's a Section 1031 like-kind exchange which does not trigger capital gains. [0] https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/like-kind-exchanges-under-irc-c...

"Finally, certain types of property are specifically excluded from Section 1031 treatment. Section 1031 does not apply to exchanges of:

Inventory or stock in trade Stocks, bonds, or notes Other securities or debt Partnership interests Certificates of trust"

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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post #26

I like that the post mentions she's mined 200,000 Satoshis. Is this some kind of Bitcoin Shibboleth? I had to google it. It's about $8.

Yes I laughed reading that part because it followed her saying they made a lot of money. How embarrassing.

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

#97
post #37

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Schwab has the lowest cost index funds ETFs: https://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/investing/accounts_prod... Additionally, Fidelity offers index funds at a lower cost than Vanguard: https://www.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/investing-ideas/index-...

Vanguard is a mutual company. Whatever savings that they can extract from efficiency gains they pass along to their customer base. Also, Fidelity's index funds are loss leaders to retain funds that were flowing out to Vanguard.

If low cost index funds are unprofitable then please explain how BlackRock is making so much money off of them?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2015/01/13/re...

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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post #76

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Now compare total market capitalization of equity markets to Bitcoin. I doubt you could liquidate millions of dollars of bitcoin in a day and not make the market plummet. You can do that in the last 30 minutes of the stock trading day with no very little price fluctuation. There are equities that are up triple digits, including Nvidia...who is realistically the biggest winner in crypto mining.

« I doubt you could liquidate millions of dollars of bitcoin in a day and not make the market plummet. » Wrong. 1.5+ BILLION dollars' worth of bitcoins are sold and bought in aggregate daily on 100+ exchanges: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Being able to sell one cryptocurrency for another doesn't mean the first cryptocurrency is liquid.

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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post #53

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(Satoshi is the inventor of bitcoin, in case you don't know)

Not quite. The central ideas underpinning bitcoin are very old, tracing back to hashcash and bitgold. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hashcash#History It's not really an important distinction, but maybe someone will find the history interesting.

HashCash's contributions were fairly small. PoW was already invented and RPoW quickly improved upon it. I have no idea why Satoshi even referenced it.

Re: Fidelity CEO Abigail Johnson says the company is mining cryptocurrencies

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post #91

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EDIT: I was wrong. Please ignore the below incorrect content. >In most cases, it wouldn't make sense to switch existing funds to another provider in a taxable account if switching would result in a large capital gain. As long as the the funds track the same index then it's a Section 1031 like-kind exchange which does not trigger capital gains. [0] https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/like-kind-exchanges-under-irc-c...

"Finally, certain types of property are specifically excluded from Section 1031 treatment. Section 1031 does not apply to exchanges of: Inventory or stock in trade Stocks, bonds, or notes Other securities or debt Partnership interests Certificates of trust"

I stand corrected. Thanks for the correction.
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